Are you using the Hogan pic to demonstrate that although well past impact Hogan still has a 'lil right arm to go? No hitting up on it here, folks! Kev, you should add the upswing driver to your bag of tricks. Especially if you "need" a few extra yards and are playing to a 100 yard wide fairway. Personally I think hitting everything on the down is like taking out insurance. Cannot be overinsured (or at least that is what Bucket told me)