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vjcapron 06-16-2006 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mathew
Also please remember my girlfriend is american so this is not a dig at america - just the individuals which act like idiots....

Where have I heard a quote like this before? Is this Paul Casey?

You should be more worried about your country's soccer fans and less worried about American golf fans.

Golf has changed for the better and it is a game of the masses now. Take the stick out of your arse and enjoy the show.

birdie_man 06-16-2006 01:44 PM

Matthew man....

I don't know enough to call it either way (for or against the American fans)....

But I think you have a bit of a point actually...

The crowds seem to be different at the Phoenix Open (errr w/e it's called now) vs. some tourney in Scotland or something.

Different type of fans.

I think it's a fair call.

psheehan 06-16-2006 01:56 PM

I didn't vote....but I'm not rooting for Monty, but not because of anything he has said to fans in the past. Actually, I had been a fan of Monty's until a couple of rules issues in the past few years. There was the one where he insisted he didn't touch the ball with his putter, although video seemed to indicate he did... I could let that slide if he hadn't had some 'confusion' over where his ball had been in a bunker when play was halted, several tournaments later. In that one, play was halted, he had a terrible (feet perhaps out, ball in)lie in a bunker. He picked up his ball without marking and the following day replaced it in ... surprise! a rather nice lie. It could be coincidence... but ya' know what..I wouldn't be playing Monty for money unless I was friends with the guy who was caddying for him...and Monty wasn't. So I can't root for him anymore.

Burner 06-16-2006 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackjackNY
It's a tough call. At Bethpage in 2002, Golf Digest handed out 25,000 pins that said, "Be Nice to Monty!"(And we were. Very nice.) And wasn't he the same guy that once wanted the blimp moved because it was annoying him?
Still, I like his unorthodox swing, and like the man, from what I know about him. It would be a fitting cap to one of the best Ryder Cup players I've ever seen.

Trouble with forming opinions, and this is universal and not aimed at you personally BlackjackNY, is that most of the information used in this process is neither credible or worthy of passing on. As in your (rhetorical?) question the answer received, and then passed on as fact, is not, necessarily, what you may have witnessed personally.

Heresay should be confined to the heresay bin and kept to onesself, unless it is known to be fact.

Yes, the man is complex, misrepresents himself and often appears moody at times, but most of all he is just unfairly maligned.

Almost all of the non-major winning golfing fraternity would, I imagine, be quite prepared to commit nefarious deeds in order to obtain a playing record like Monty's.

He has the game to win but like all major winners needs that little smattering of good fortune to help him on his way.

alex_chung 06-16-2006 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psheehan
I didn't vote....but I'm not rooting for Monty, but not because of anything he has said to fans in the past. Actually, I had been a fan of Monty's until a couple of rules issues in the past few years. There was the one where he insisted he didn't touch the ball with his putter, although video seemed to indicate he did... I could let that slide if he hadn't had some 'confusion' over where his ball had been in a bunker when play was halted, several tournaments later. In that one, play was halted, he had a terrible (feet perhaps out, ball in)lie in a bunker. He picked up his ball without marking and the following day replaced it in ... surprise! a rather nice lie. It could be coincidence... but ya' know what..I wouldn't be playing Monty for money unless I was friends with the guy who was caddying for him...and Monty wasn't. So I can't root for him anymore.

Actually he did mark his ball but the markers were removed by the time he returned to the course the next morning.
Alex

metallion 06-17-2006 01:36 PM

Be nice
 


In one way or another it'll pay off.

Should he win it'd be a very emotional victory. I like to see that and I think it'd instantly make Monty a better contributor to the game.

But not as much as I once wanted Greg Norman to win the Masters. It was good for Larry Mize, but a well deserved Shark win would have been better for golf.

Yoda 06-17-2006 07:12 PM

Guts
 
Colin Montgomery in Saturday's third round:

Five over after four...

Five over after eighteen.

And only three off the lead.

Very brave.

BlackjackNY 06-17-2006 08:08 PM

Wow!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda
Colin Montgomery in Saturday's third round:

Five over after four...

Five over after eighteen.

And only three off the lead.

Very brave.

Great third round. I think anybody who is at +6 or better is still in it(watch out for Vijay!). The course reminds me so much of Bethpage Black, except with more undulating greens. I play the Black occasionally, and I don't know how the members at the Foot can stand it. Every time I play it, I want to run over my clubs in the parking lot:crybaby:.
Should be a fantastic final round tomorrow!

neil 06-18-2006 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psheehan
I didn't vote....but I'm not rooting for Monty, but not because of anything he has said to fans in the past. Actually, I had been a fan of Monty's until a couple of rules issues in the past few years. There was the one where he insisted he didn't touch the ball with his putter, although video seemed to indicate he did... I could let that slide if he hadn't had some 'confusion' over where his ball had been in a bunker when play was halted, several tournaments later. In that one, play was halted, he had a terrible (feet perhaps out, ball in)lie in a bunker. He picked up his ball without marking and the following day replaced it in ... surprise! a rather nice lie. It could be coincidence... but ya' know what..I wouldn't be playing Monty for money unless I was friends with the guy who was caddying for him...and Monty wasn't. So I can't root for him anymore.

That is a very unfair statement.The putting indident was very contentious and was both "proved" and "disproved "by British TV.The Malaysia issue was officiated by the PGA.Monty is not a cheat.:naughty:

mrodock 06-18-2006 10:39 PM

The way Monty lost that major was so brutal. Really hated to see him lose that way. I was freaking out after he made that bomb and for it to all blow up in his face on 18. I think just about everyone here could have at least made a bogey from 173 in the fairway, but to get into a playoff for the US Open, when we think we need a birdie, seems the numbers would get a lot smaller!

Matt


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