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Is that link dead? I can't seem to open the utube vid.

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Originally Posted by Erik_K

Is that link dead? I can't seem to open the utube vid.

The link is very much up...you have to let it load first.

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Originally Posted by comdpa

KnighT,

First of all, TGM is simple to understand - you actually need someone to confuse you! :)

Yes, the stance is square with the mat. The backstroke is as faulty as it can get. On the backstroke, the clubshaft is supposed to trace the plane line which happens to be parallel of the target line.

On the downstroke, you want to trace the 10-5-E or the closed plane line. This is to make sure that you get Steering (3-F-7-A) out of your system and get the clubhead moving from inside to outside.

Per 1-L-16, The Plane Line controls the Clubhead Line-Of-Flight. Clubface alignment controls the Ball Line-of-Flight.

Per 1-L-19, Stance Line, Plane Line and Flight Line are normally parallel.

You are very welcome...thank you for letting me share! The end result of this drill and the Pyramid Drill is this shot with the 6 Iron.

Compda,

Let me ask a few questions.

When doing the inside out cut shot routine:

a) student sets up as normal (square stance).

b) we want a plane line that is turned to the left (open), right?

c) the idea, though, is that even though the shoulders are way open, the club head still travels from the inside and the ball can still go out to right field. Is that correct?

One other thing that I need further clarification on: the feet, or stance is square, but the shoulders are open at address, right? Does this establish an open plane line?

Also, the main goal with this therapy is to learn to deliver the clubhead from the inside, right?

If done correctly, is it safe to say that this would eliminate the rounhouse move?

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Originally Posted by comdpa

The link is very much up...you have to let it load first.

Compda,

Thanks for the reply. Eventually it worked and I was able to view the video.

Also, when you get a chance, can you elaborate on the pyramid video?

thanks again!

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Originally Posted by danny_shank

Hi Comdpa, nice swing!

How far would you the 6 iron went?

I especially like the tempo and that nice relaxed backswing position. I just wondered if you could tell me if the right forearm powers the backswing or your pivot?

Cheers,

Danny

My average playing distance with the 6 on course is 190 yards.

As for the backstroke, though it looks like I initiated with my pivot (that is just my quirky move), it is pure Right Forearm.

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Originally Posted by Sonic_Doom

Man, that left arm is as straight as a die,,,

Is this something that comes natural or did you develop it?

It appears that your left elbow (funny bone part) is pointed toward the plane line at parallel, whereas mine would be more inward toward my body.

The left arm is dead straight and frankly I don't like it.
I prefer a slight bend in it.

That left arm is actually a bad habit from when I was learning golf as a kid. The pro said "keep it straight" and that was what I did...

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Originally Posted by Erik_K

Compda,

Let me ask a few questions.

When doing the inside out cut shot routine:

a) student sets up as normal (square stance).
Yes

b) we want a plane line that is turned to the left (open), right?
Not turned to the left, but to the right of the target line.
c) the idea, though, is that even though the shoulders are way open, the club head still travels from the inside and the ball can still go out to right field. Is that correct?

Correct!

One other thing that I need further clarification on: the feet, or stance is square, but the shoulders are open at address, right? Does this establish an open plane line?

Everything is square. This is called an inside out cut shot because it is the opposite of an outside in cut shot. When we exaggerate the amount of inside out, we get a pushed shot. And this is the very thing that will get rid of your over the top move.

Also, the main goal with this therapy is to learn to deliver the clubhead from the inside, right?

Correct!

If done correctly, is it safe to say that this would eliminate the rounhouse move?

Spot on!

Hey Erik, I have put my answers next to your questions in bold.

Pyramid Elaboration

When you move from swinging the clubshaft to a normal club, you are 'overspeeding'; training your arms to move super fast.

When you move from the normal club to the weighted club, you are overloading; building up the golf specific muscles.

Besides that, this drill also shows you that a long backstroke is not required for lag.

getting closer...

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Originally Posted by comdpa

Hey Erik, I have put my answers next to your questions in bold.

Compda,

OK. I understand now that at address, we setup how we'd play any regular golf shot-everything is, essentially, square.

One thing that I am confused about, is the statement:

"This is called an inside out cut shot because it is the opposite of an outside in cut shot. When we exaggerate the amount of outside in, we get a pushed shot."

If I am right handed golfer and have an outside-in swing (over the top motion, say), wouldn't that result in a 'pull' to the left. Perhaps where I am getting confused is what you are calling a 'pushed' shot. I always thought a pushed shot, was one that landed to right field-just a straight shot, dead right of the target. That seems hard to do if you are coming over the top and have a move that permits an outside-in motion. Perhaps with an open face, you could impart spin that will slice it back to the target (or way right or the target).

Thanks for all of your help. I've always enjoyed reading your posts!

Erik

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Originally Posted by Erik_K

Compda,

OK. I understand now that at address, we setup how we'd play any regular golf shot-everything is, essentially, square.

One thing that I am confused about, is the statement:

"This is called an inside out cut shot because it is the opposite of an outside in cut shot. When we exaggerate the amount of outside in, we get a pushed shot."

If I am right handed golfer and have an outside-in swing (over the top motion, say), wouldn't that result in a 'pull' to the left. Perhaps where I am getting confused is what you are calling a 'pushed' shot. I always thought a pushed shot, was one that landed to right field-just a straight shot, dead right of the target. That seems hard to do if you are coming over the top and have a move that permits an outside-in motion. Perhaps with an open face, you could impart spin that will slice it back to the target (or way right or the target).

Thanks for all of your help. I've always enjoyed reading your posts!

Erik

See...you need someone to help you misunderstand TGM. The above bolded in red is a typo error. It should read..."When we exaggerate the amount of inside out..."