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12 piece bucket 06-06-2007 08:45 PM

One thing for sure . . . given the same clubhead speed . . . the ball don't know or care whether you hit or swing.

Bagger Lance 06-06-2007 08:45 PM

Differences
 
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Originally Posted by nuke99 (Post 42414)

Does our tricep know its accumulator 1 or extensor action? The job is only to contract and straighten.

I don't know about your tricep, but mine knows the difference between the constant 5lb pull of extensor action throughout the swing stroke vs. trying to rip my left thumb off my hand with a 75lb push.

Ted uses double that such that his left arm is temporarily dislocated from the shoulder.

Be careful shaking his hand.:)

nuke99 06-06-2007 09:02 PM

bucket... I know that ... but thats besides the point . Furthermore... it will yield different "tendencies"


Bagger, My point is .... you can apply Same amount of extensor action or accumulator 1 75 lbs ,, or 100 lbs on both... but the difference is whether it supports the primary or secondary assembly ...


Out of the sudden , I realised nobody understand what i am writing >..<.. Should have paid more attention in my English Classes.. But the teacher is old and mean you can't blame a small kid for not trying his best.

6bmike 06-06-2007 09:04 PM

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Nuke

"Does our tricep know its accumulator 1 or extensor action? The job is only to contract and straighten."

But Extensor Action doesn't hit the ball- Accumulator #1 does. Extensor Action has NO power to the ball. It welds the two opposing planes of the Flying Wedges. That is important enough. To say that Extensor Action and Accumulator #1 is the same thing - is just plain wrong.

6bmike 06-06-2007 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by YodasLuke (Post 42412)
Great post. But, the disclaimer is pure brilliance (IMHO).


Ted, you are the Hit King. Nobody knows it better than you. :)

nuke99 06-06-2007 09:09 PM

ARRRGGGH Mike...

ITS different .. but thats beside the point

It becomes different because on how it Assembles.. NOT by pure intent ...

Ie.. YOU CANNOT say you want the Tricep become a active or Passive, HIT or Swing , Accumulator 1 or Extensor action , with the same elbow position, with the same way the tricep "pulls the thumb" . by just wanting and thinking. ,,,,,, We need to change something . get what i am trying to express?

6bmike 06-06-2007 09:19 PM

Extensor Action does not straighten and pushes the left arm to the ball. It tries to straighten in a straight line along the shaft- a totally different direction. The inline force is what glues the wedges.

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nuke
"No.3 pressure point is slightly counter - clockwise .. top aft for swinger ( with a ? shape trigger finger) and aft for hitters...

Reason is , the way the elbow is positioned, the grip have to be slightly different. but presumably BOTH strong single .
At address #3pp is always behind the shaft regardless of finger shape. It is the turn of the Hand of Standard Left Wrist Action to the End that changes the alignments but nopt the actual location of the finger contact on the shaft. There is no elbow position in Alignment golf. check the video and let Lynn explain it to you.

Bigwill 06-06-2007 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by nuke99 (Post 42422)
ARRRGGGH Mike...

ITS different .. but thats beside the point

It becomes different because on how it Assembles.. NOT by pure intent ...

Ie.. you cant say you want the Tricep become a HIT or a swing , Accumulator 1 or Extensor action , with the same elbow , with the same way the elbow Pull ... ... get what i am trying to express?

I think I do. You're asking, "If extensor action and the hitter's drive-out both involve triceps activation, and extensor action is active from startup to both arms straight, what differentiates the triceps activity of extensor action from the triceps activity of the hitter's drive out, considering that the triceps only extends the arm at the elbow?" Am I on the right track?

Maybe the difference between extensor action and the hitters thrust is felt at an anatomical level. In other words, the triceps muscles are extending in both cases. But maybe other muscles (pecs, anterior delts) come into play during the hitter's drive-out, while they don't necessarily do so in extensor action??

nuke99 06-06-2007 09:28 PM

ok... from extensor action .. i highlight 2 sentence in 6.B.1.D

Quote:

Stretching the Left Arm through the #3 Pressure Point gives the same action as pulling on both ends of a rope. ( swinging?)

Quote:

In which case, use only the #1 Pressure Point and pull on the Left Thumb to then hold at least the Left Arm in-line and retain Power Package structural rigidity. ( hitting , punch or push elbow)

you can't really pull Both


ALSO

10.18.A

I highlight

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Remember, with Swinging, Pressure Point #3 must have a Feel of being rotated a quarter turn at The Top with Standard Wrist Action (10-18-A)

nuke99 06-06-2007 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigwill (Post 42424)
I think I do. You're asking, "If extensor action and the hitter's drive-out both involve triceps activation, and extensor action is active from startup to both arms straight, what differentiates the triceps activity of extensor action from the triceps activity of the hitter's drive out, considering that the triceps only extends the arm at the elbow?" Am I on the right track?


Yub, for your first paragraph... as stated in 6B1D...

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Because of Extensor Action, the Right Triceps can never be totally "passive."

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Quote:

Maybe the difference between extensor action and the hitters thrust is felt at an anatomical level. In other words, the triceps muscles are extending in both cases. But maybe other muscles (pecs, anterior delts) come into play during the hitter's drive-out, while they don't necessarily do so in extensor action??

Not really... My point is how the Tricep power is assembled will differentiate between the tricep being a acc 1 or extensor action or both. pls refer the TGM quote of 6b1D


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