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gmbtempe 12-15-2009 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 69818)
Thanks for all this great stuff Ted.

The fella you mentioned, Im trying to figure him out. I had a similar lesson once that confounded me until I met you guys. Was he teaching a covering of the Arc of Approach but with an Arc that was too tight and not a visual equivalent? Its comforting to know that some A.I.'s dont fully understand 2-J-3 cause I sure struggle with it.

I don't understand the arc of approach procedure at all for the visual equivalent. I have searched and read threads, its just not getting through to me, I think I need to have someone show me to grasp it. I am slower than most I guess. :confused1

YodasLuke 12-15-2009 01:07 PM

"TGM" instruction: a major disappointment
 
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 69818)
Thanks for all this great stuff Ted.

The fella you mentioned, Im trying to figure him out. I had a similar lesson once that confounded me until I met you guys. Was he teaching a covering of the Arc of Approach but with an Arc that was too tight and not a visual equivalent? Its comforting to know that some A.I.'s dont fully understand 2-J-3 cause I sure struggle with it.

Yes, he was. I thought it looked ridiculous. But, I was only a G.S.E.B. and he was a G.S.E.D. I thought that he knew what he was doing, which was a bad assumption on my part.

I was terribly disappointed that 2-J-3 was misunderstood at the highest levels of TGM. I was given falsehoods as truth. It's one of the many reasons that I am no longer an "Authorized" Golfing Machine Instructor.

Thank God for Lynn.

KevCarter 12-15-2009 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by YodasLuke (Post 69828)
Yes, he was. I thought it looked ridiculous. But, I was only a G.S.E.B. and he was a G.S.E.D. I thought that he knew what he was doing, which was a bad assumption on my part.

I was terribly disappointed that 2-J-3 was misunderstood at the highest levels of TGM. I was given falsehoods as truth. It's one of the many reasons that I am no longer an "Authorized" Golfing Machine Instructor.

Thank God for Lynn.

Its sad to see some GSEDs trying to kill the basic tenants of Mr. Kelley's work for the sole reason of making themselves look like pioneers. False prophets? :naughty:

LBG Certified / Master must feel great to have by your name, that still means something! :salut:

Kevin

YodasLuke 12-15-2009 02:30 PM

"pioneers"
 
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Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 69829)
Its sad to see some GSEDs trying to kill the basic tenants of Mr. Kelley's work for the sole reason of making themselves look like pioneers. False prophets? :naughty:

LBG Certified / Master must feel great to have by your name, that still means something! :salut:

Kevin

If they keep telling themselves that they are the best in the world or that they are the only ones that can teach TGM, maybe it will come true.

I'd rather my epitaph say, "He loved helping people succeed", instead of "Egomaniac with an inferiority complex."

O.B.Left 12-15-2009 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by YodasLuke (Post 69828)
Yes, he was. I thought it looked ridiculous. But, I was only a G.S.E.B. and he was a G.S.E.D. I thought that he knew what he was doing, which was a bad assumption on my part.

I was terribly disappointed that 2-J-3 was misunderstood at the highest levels of TGM. I was given falsehoods as truth. It's one of the many reasons that I am no longer an "Authorized" Golfing Machine Instructor.

Thank God for Lynn.



Yes TGFL. And that fella screwed up the Arc which is the easy one too!

Ted some day when you have a year or so, you'll have to help us all out with the Angle Of Approach. Although I guess you dont need to understand its geometry if you just cover it and forget about it. No rush, put it on your to do list for when your kids are in university.

YodasLuke 12-15-2009 03:04 PM

Angle of Approach video
 
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 69832)
Yes TGFL. And that fella screwed up the Arc which is the easy one too!

Ted some day when you have a year or so, you'll have to help us all out with the Angle Of Approach. Although I guess you dont need to understand its geometry if you just cover it and forget about it. No rush, put it on your to do list for when your kids are in university.

I'd love to do the video. It's easy to explain. I'll ask Lynn about it.

KevCarter 12-15-2009 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by YodasLuke (Post 69834)
I'd love to do the video. It's easy to explain. I'll ask Lynn about it.

I'll be standing in line right behind OB to pay if you choose to do it as a premium video! You guys don't need to be doing all this stuff for us free!

Kevin

KevCarter 12-15-2009 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 69829)
Its sad to see some GSEDs trying to kill the basic tenants of Mr. Kelley's work for the sole reason of making themselves look like pioneers. False prophets? :naughty:

LBG Certified / Master must feel great to have by your name, that still means something! :salut:

Kevin

I'm feeling a little badly about this post. There are also GREAT GSEDs like our friend Paul Hart, and many wonderful GSEBs and GSEMs as well. I didn't mean to put them down as a group, and I feel I did. My apologies to all!

Kevin

YodasLuke 12-15-2009 03:25 PM

I totally agree
 
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Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 69836)
I'm feeling a little badly about this post. There are also GREAT GSEDs like our friend Paul Hart, and many wonderful GSEBs and GSEMs as well. I didn't mean to put them down as a group, and I feel I did. My apologies to all!

Kevin

There are many greats. And, I agree with you about Paul Hart. He's amazing. I would add Mark Blackburn, VJ Trolio, David Orr, Rob Noel, James Leitz, etc.

KevCarter 12-15-2009 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by YodasLuke (Post 69837)
There are many greats. And, I agree with you about Paul Hart. He's amazing. I would add Mark Blackburn, VJ Trolio, David Orr, Rob Noel, James Leitz, etc.

Yes, yes, yes, I have a ton of respect for all those guys and more... I'm an idiot, need to think before typing... :crybaby:

Kevin


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