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KevCarter 01-12-2010 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dodger (Post 70577)
Kevin, with the left foot flared open, try to feel your right leg stays straight on the downswing. Feel there is a clubhead attached to the outside of your right toe. Bury the clubhead in the ground leading edge first with a straight right leg. I got that tip twenty years ago and it still helps me.

Thanks Roger! :salut:

Kevin

12 piece bucket 01-13-2010 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 70512)
Please excuse the enclosed picture stolen from another golf swing school of thought. It depicts my problem perfectly. When I look at the swing sequence of YODA, or any great player past or present, I see extension of the spine as in the picture on the left. :thumright When I look at video of my swing, I see the picture on the right. :thumbdown I am still looking for a "puke" smilie. :laughing9

For someone using pretty much the basic hitting pattern from the 6th edition, what are some "feels" that could help me get back to the proper mechanics of the picture on the left?

I'm ashamed to admit the fat guy in the striped shirt is me. :crybaby:

Thank you in advance for any help and ideas.

Kevin

Dude . . . my back and knee hurts just looking at that man . . . hit a bunch of punch shots just past follow thru but make sure that your BELLY IS UP UP UP and that your legs straighten out. Your hips have to have gone BACKWARD to get that look. Feel like you is gonna sling all that lent in your belly button up in the air and down your stance line. Feel like you are pulling the club up outta the ground with your pivot through the ball. If you stop past follow through then you can monitor your alignments . . . wedges . . . check . . . left knee bent? X . . . Lent out my navel? Check . . . hips up and forward? Check . . . W8 left? Check . . . Cliffhanger gone? X :happy3:

Fix this picture man . . . you are too good and too knowledgeable to be looking like that. You can do it!!! Get after it . . . bang some punch shots and get the club outta the ground FAST with your knees and belly.





You don't want to finish all bent over like the cat in the dress . . .

KevCarter 01-13-2010 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 70582)
Dude . . . my back and knee hurts just looking at that man . . . hit a bunch of punch shots just past follow thru but make sure that your BELLY IS UP UP UP and that your legs straighten out. Your hips have to have gone BACKWARD to get that look. Feel like you is gonna sling all that lent in your belly button up in the air and down your stance line. Feel like you are pulling the club up outta the ground with your pivot through the ball. If you stop past follow through then you can monitor your alignments . . . wedges . . . check . . . left knee bent? X . . . Lent out my navel? Check . . . hips up and forward? Check . . . W8 left? Check . . . Cliffhanger gone? X :happy3:

Fix this picture man . . . you are too good and too knowledgeable to be looking like that. You can do it!!! Get after it . . .

Hello Bucket, I agree! When I stopped the video and saw this, I almost puked. I have gotten a lot of good ideas, and yours are exactly what I will be working on. Hopefully the next pic of me will look like a golfer, I'm not sure I can think of anything that should resemble the pic I posted! :laughing9

Thanks Bucket, your help is appreciated! :salut:

Kevin

12 piece bucket 01-13-2010 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 70583)
Hello Bucket, I agree! When I stopped the video and saw this, I almost puked. I have gotten a lot of good ideas, and yours are exactly what I will be working on. Hopefully the next pic of me will look like a golfer, I'm not sure I can think of anything that should resemble the pic I posted! :laughing9

Thanks Bucket, your help is appreciated! :salut:

Kevin

MIRROR MIRROR MIRROR . . . . look look look . . . film film film . . . you gotta grind on this via Chapter 3.

dkerby 01-13-2010 12:25 PM

First Hogan Picture
 
Bucket, thanks for the Hogan pictures. You sure
find a lot of Hogan pictures that I have never seen.
One thing that impresses me, in the first picture,
is that the left wrist does not cup. Looks like a
perfect swivel. Donn

O.B.Left 01-14-2010 01:03 AM

Ya agreed, Bucket those Hogan pictures are great. Not sure about the Double Anchor on the photographer though.

Bucket the leg extension thing. Is it a product of the Hip motion or is it a plane jane knee unbending? Like you where pushing down on the ground or something.

12 piece bucket 01-14-2010 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 70597)
Ya agreed, Bucket those Hogan pictures are great. Not sure about the Double Anchor on the photographer though.

Bucket the leg extension thing. Is it a product of the Hip motion or is it a plane jane knee unbending? Like you where pushing down on the ground or something.

Check your yaller book on knee action . . . Mr. Kelley had it right . . . The knee action controls the hip slant and amount they can turn . . .and thus axis tilt to an extent and how far and how much the hips can go forward.

So compare the Hogan picture to our homie Kev's . . .















When the left knee straightens the hips will begin to turn . . . and allows the axis to tilt and hips and spin to extend . . . but you'll note that Hogan's knee straightens but it does it LATE . . . he goes forward forward forward down into the left knee and the pushes UP off the ground and the hips turn and raise and the axis tilts . . . We don't have Kev's entire sequence but it is clear that there are some things going on . . . head could be chasing? Hips could be backing up? Or both? But you can see by the left foot there's some spin out going on and the weight is more back. Look at where their butts are comparitively . . . also the axis tilts . . . somebody literally needs to kick Kev's ass :) . . . but then look at Eldrick too . . . . knee straightens but quicker than Hogan's . . . Eldrick is on tilt (in many ways) but his head seems to be backing up . . . . all this has implications on hinging and plane too . . .

KevCarter 01-14-2010 10:56 AM

LOL

Part of the problem is the old body, knees, back, and lack of flexibility. Combine that with trying to be "pretty."

I had switched to Standard Knee action in an attempt to look like Mr. Hogan. With my inflexible, short backswing, my legs didn't have time to bend at start down, and then push and straighten through follow through. My right knee was still bending through impact, and my hips were backing up exactly as you saw.Going back to Right anchor, I skip the straightening then bending procedures, and am able to get pushing from the ground properly through impact.

I also need to work on my hand path, which should get better with my improved rotation. Flaring the left foot more has made a huge difference in taking the stress off my left knee and allowing some turn. In the pic of the bad swing, it's tough to see from that angle, but I never get the shaft back on plane after impact. Chasing it BIG TIME.

Lots of issues, which you would expect from someone who really hasn't played in 3 years...

Hopefully I'll get some new pictures up next week... feeling like my old self again.

Perfect example of needing to find a motion to fit ourselves, not a model.

Make sense Bucket? :golfing_banana:

Thanks,
Kevin

O.B.Left 01-14-2010 01:17 PM

Interesting stuff Bucket. Gonna try the bend and extend with the left knee and see what happens to the rest of the machine on video.

As an aside that last photo of Tiger and Hogan, which one looks likes it hurts? Hogan's right foot is de weighted , his body has rotated towards the hole, his hands are still in front of his body etc. Sort of like he's swinging the club and letting the club swing him too. Like Fred Astair dancing with a string mop. There is an efficiency and a harmony there.

EdZ 01-14-2010 02:50 PM

Another suggestion to add to the previous ones, and one of my personal favorites as 'best simple drill ever'.

Hold your finish until the ball stops.


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