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jkpassage 10-07-2010 11:19 PM
John Graham is a passionate golf instructior located around Rochester, NY. John and I communicate a lot during the week.

footwedge 10-08-2010 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 76553)
Boys this is some very important stuff . . . . Very much validation of Homer's stuff . . . excellent . . . kinda gotta get thru some junk in this first one to get to the meat . . bear with the dude. The other ones give you a bit more detail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP26-...sh+div-1r-1-HM

http://www.youtube.com/user/davidcpga#p/u/3/6KN4DNS3gnY

http://www.youtube.com/user/davidcpga#p/u/2/ktXdMtLiiXE

http://www.youtube.com/user/davidcpga#p/u/1/xmOzXCZCYGI

http://www.youtube.com/user/davidcpga#p/u/0/7zCgkXvJYlw
Where can i find the d-plane in Homer's book?

KevCarter 10-08-2010 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by footwedge (Post 76894)
Where can i find the d-plane in Homer's book?
D-Plane comes from Theodore Jorgenson's "The Physics Of Golf." Not a Homer Kelley concept.

Kevin

gmbtempe 10-08-2010 05:48 PM
Well this thread is making its rounds on the net for the "haters".

I dont think Homer knew it all in terms of ball flight but he knew a heck of a lot more than most, even his wording suggests that he knew there was more to this but could not prove it without more sophisticated study.

The direction of the ball will always be practically at right angles to the Clubface

footwedge 10-08-2010 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by gmbtempe (Post 76896)
Well this thread is making its rounds on the net for the "haters".

I dont think Homer knew it all in terms of ball flight but he knew a heck of a lot more than most, even his wording suggests that he knew there was more to this but could not prove it without more sophisticated study.

The direction of the ball will always be practically at right angles to the Clubface
Who are the hater's and what are they saying? Is the direction of the ball at right angles to the face the same as the d-plane? Can you add more to this.

12 piece bucket 10-09-2010 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by footwedge (Post 76907)
Who are the hater's and what are they saying? Is the direction of the ball at right angles to the face the same as the d-plane? Can you add more to this.
Nope he said practically right angles . . . to be inferred that it wasn't 100% . . . 2-B talks about the tilting of spin axis of the ball also mentioned in 2-D-O more in 2-E. . . homer understood that all divots were down AND OUT . . See 1-L . . . maybe not exact according to Jergenson . . . but he was certainly sniffing it if he didn't have it.

KevCarter 10-09-2010 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by footwedge (Post 76907)
Who are the hater's and what are they saying?
My definition of "haters" in this context would be the guys who feel the only way they can sell their brand of snake oil is to beat everybody else down. Pretty silly that the man who they are targeting has been gone for over 25 years and would have loved to continue growing his knowledge with the new technology...

Kevin

footwedge 10-09-2010 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 76923)
Nope he said practically right angles . . . to be inferred that it wasn't 100% . . . 2-B talks about the tilting of spin axis of the ball also mentioned in 2-D-O more in 2-E. . . homer understood that all divots were down AND OUT . . See 1-L . . . maybe not exact according to Jergenson . . . but he was certainly sniffing it if he didn't have it.
I think the tilting of spin axis of the ball and the divot been down and out aren't enough for your claim about Homer and the d-plane , from what i have read about the d-plane there is alot more to it than that. Seems a bit of a leap.

Yoda 10-09-2010 02:21 PM
Is D-Plane D-Answer?
 
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Originally Posted by footwedge (Post 76927)

I think the tilting of spin axis of the ball and the divot been down and out aren't enough for your claim about Homer and the d-plane , from what i have read about the d-plane there is alot more to it than that. Seems a bit of a leap.
From a practical standpoint, what can the D-Plane concept do for you that 1-L #5 through #17 cannot? Also, on what other basis -- practical or theoretical -- is it superior?

:salut:

footwedge 10-09-2010 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 76929)
From a practical standpoint, what can the D-Plane concept do for you that 1-L #5 through #17 cannot? Also, on what other basis -- practical or theoretical -- is it superior?

:salut:
Is the d-plane Homer's work or not? Just a simple question yes or no. That's all i want to know. It is superior in that it is way more complete in all aspects of ball flight theory than anything Homer wrote, like it or not.


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