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jr33 03-18-2005 08:26 PM

What a great video I had seen a clip a few years back but never seen the whole video thanks.

birdie_man 03-23-2005 09:44 PM

Great video man.

Hogan doesn't say much does he?

Trig 03-23-2005 10:58 PM

Making it look easy
 
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Originally Posted by birdie_man
Great video man.

Hogan doesn't say much does he?

I like the part when he's showing the slo-motion stuff from each angle. Then the camera guy asks if he wants to show any more shots from different angles- Hogan says, "No. That's all there is."

birdie_man 04-04-2005 12:54 PM

It looks like Hogan plays with open shoulders...true?

Trig 04-04-2005 02:47 PM

I think...
 
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Originally Posted by birdie_man
It looks like Hogan plays with open shoulders...true?

I think he plays with a closed stance and shoulders parallel to the target line....maybe someone knows for sure out there...

birdie_man 08-01-2005 11:22 PM

Just watched some of this again today...

Couldn't help but think how amazing this video would be if they were all talking in "TGM speak."

-Paul

birdie_man 08-09-2005 04:31 PM

Noticed today that his head is not exactly stationary when he hits his driver in this vid...it moves laterally...and ONLY laterally until it moves up after impact.
Interesting...everyone always comments on his steady head...maybe for short irons? Or did he change his swing after this vid or something?

Vikram 08-10-2005 04:13 AM

Talking of steady heads, watch Jeff Maggert -- perfect example.

Just to add. If you can learn to pivot on a Teeter totter as Chuck evans shows in one of his videos that would lead to similar mechanics. I made one here in India where I teach and decided to try it on one of my new students who had no introduction to golf, a fairly young and flexible fellow, patient and willing to learn. Took us two days working on the body lane but what superbly successful results in the pivot components. All that he could do to maintain the teeter totter in balance was to control the pivot with the hands. --- He could'nt reverse pivot!! could'nt sway could'nt fall over on the heels or toes------- WOW !!!!!!!! breakthrough!!!!!!!. This kid learnt to swing the club with perfect balance and within three weeks can hit an 8 iron to 120 yds. 11 yrs old. What satisfaction!!!

Vikram GSEB

dss 08-10-2005 08:24 PM

Vikram
 
Great post!!! It would be tremendous to see some video of you and your student doing this drill!!! Do you have such capability?

birdie_man 08-20-2005 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by birdie_man
Noticed today that his head is not exactly stationary when he hits his driver in this vid...it moves laterally...and ONLY laterally until it moves up after impact.
Interesting...everyone always comments on his steady head...maybe for short irons? Or did he change his swing after this vid or something?

Hmmm...but in this vid his head doesn't move much at all:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/Video/hogan.mpeg

Interesting...

What year is this Palm Beach Video from?

Thanks.

-Paul

tradekid 08-20-2005 02:23 AM

Not Palm Beach.

February 21, 1965 Houston Country Club.

birdie_man 08-20-2005 10:24 AM

Nonono...I mean the video in this thread.

"The George Coleman Palm Beach Estate Footage."

birdie_man 08-21-2005 10:06 PM

Any idea Lynn? The date of this "Palm Beach" footage?

mb6606 08-21-2005 10:16 PM

Hogan was born in 1912. He looks to be 55-60 yrs old in the film.

onemomentintime 02-14-2006 06:44 PM

that video is priceless...to see him at that age still going strong is a true testament to what a great striker of the ball he was. amazing.

Jim Waldron 03-05-2006 05:11 PM

I have had a copy of this tape since 1994 and play it at all of my golf schools. It was taped in 1977, Hogan was 67 years old. Since slow motion position training is a a big part of our program, we want all our students to see Hogan doing the slow mo swing. One of the many Hogan myths is that he "worked on" mechanics on the practice range. He never did any direct mechanics training on the range, except for ingraining the feel of a particular move he had already spent a lot of time working on in the mirror in slow mo - also with eyes closed in slow mo. Balance, rhythm, tempo, shot routine and target focus were the main items he worked on at the practice range. Mechanics first, then feel, then execution (dominant habit).

I also like his mention of the grip pressure points and especially how he emphasized the right forefinger pressure, he says that the force goes "forward - not around", which I guess would be referring in TGM terms to "aiming the pressure point" as you also thrust it. I have shown this video to hundreds of golf students over the past 12 years and every one of them was absolutely blown away by it! Thanks for posting it on this site, it is an invaluable resource for any serious student of the game.


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