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wanole 06-28-2005 01:43 PM

TAPES
 
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Originally Posted by 6bmike
From the tapes I have rented from Ben last year- Ben is adamant about the club always going forward. As Ben says to his students- the hands never rebound or back track. The hands always drive forward. Ben just hates seeing the clubhead pulled back after a chip or pitch.

Btw- I don’t know the date of the video Lynn is posting but I never saw the tire but only the Yellow Impact Bag in any of his lessons. He loves water bottles, towels and milk creates. He has a cart full of training aids but it is the simple bottles and towels that teach impact and lag the best.

Where does one get these tapes?

metallion 06-28-2005 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by strav
When Ben aligns the clubhead with the crate and has the student check the shadow does the shadow of the clubshaft align with the shadow of the side of the crate?

Yes. Same thing as if you'd stick a rod vertically into the ground and setup with the target line perpendicular to the rod's shadow. At lowpoint the rod and shaft shadows should align. Thus this test will give you a good idea about aiming point.

I don't know how many times in his life Ben has said:

- This looks so far forward, but its not!

metallion 06-28-2005 02:01 PM

Re: TAPES
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wanole
Quote:

Originally Posted by 6bmike
From the tapes I have rented from Ben last year- Ben is adamant about the club always going forward. As Ben says to his students- the hands never rebound or back track. The hands always drive forward. Ben just hates seeing the clubhead pulled back after a chip or pitch.

Btw- I don’t know the date of the video Lynn is posting but I never saw the tire but only the Yellow Impact Bag in any of his lessons. He loves water bottles, towels and milk creates. He has a cart full of training aids but it is the simple bottles and towels that teach impact and lag the best.

Where does one get these tapes?

Yes. If you pull your club back anytime Ben will let you know. Always shoot-hold-rest. Any jerky motion is a no-no.

I was with Ben less than a month ago. As I said he had several impact bags and also made me hit two different tyres. The smaller one seemed like an old EZGO tire.

Ben rents tapes from previous lessons. I do not think you can get them anywhere else than from Ben or someone who has been there. See his homepage.

strav 06-28-2005 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by metallion
Yes. Same thing as if you'd stick a rod vertically into the ground and setup with the target line perpendicular to the rod's shadow. At lowpoint the rod and shaft shadows should align. Thus this test will give you a good idea about aiming point.

I don't know how many times in his life Ben has said:

- This looks so far forward, but its not!

Thanks For the clarification and the extra info metallion.
This sounds like the precision we are looking for in 2-0.

Matt 06-28-2005 03:09 PM

Re: TAPES
 
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Originally Posted by wanole

Where does one get these tapes?

His phone number is on his website. He'll probably be in a lesson when he answers...at least he was for me!

:D

6bmike 06-28-2005 05:18 PM

Re: TAPES
 
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Originally Posted by rwh
Quote:

Originally Posted by wanole
Where does one get these tapes?


http://www.bendoylegolf.com/video_rentals.htm

Ben tapes all his lessons. He teaches everyone the same way. They are raw- I had one with the text still on the screen and had to watch around it and it is in real time, but.... loaded with good info. It is best to call and talk with him. 50 bucks for 3 months. Martin Hall rents them all the time.

I bet Ben is getting a lot of calls these days from Yoda-phites.

bantamben1 06-28-2005 07:43 PM

ben also has a similar drill that i saw him use on steve elkington he takes a two by four about 8 inches long and then puts another two by four that is longer in line with the first but with a gap between the two of maybe 3 inches your supposed to hit the first board using a chipping technique and have it hit the second board without flipping it over and without adding so at the end of the drill the boards are both touching and your clubhead is touching the first board. elkington had a tough time doing this. ben always says "dont add multiply"

fogger 06-29-2005 06:10 AM

After watching Ben's video many times and seeing the correct moves, this video really gave me a reference of what I was most likely doing compared to what I was striving for. This video was very educational...thank you.

Watching this video made me realize how active my hands are and how quiet my lower body is, though it didn't "appear" so to my eye on my swing video. At the range I made an adjustment and the difference in the feeling with the chipping procedure felt "controlled" and distance control was very easy. On the full swing, I just had to trust it and only hit a few shots the way I had intended and I knew it immediately. What I noticed when I felt I performed the move properly was impact, ball flight, distance control, accuracy, were all present. Sitting here now I can still remember what it felt like and what the ball flight looked like.

Yoda 06-29-2005 08:48 AM

The Sound Of...Compression
 
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Originally Posted by fogger
Sitting here now I can still remember what it felt like and what the ball flight looked like.

And probably one more, Fogger...

What it sounded like.

The Feel and the Sound combine as one delicious Crunch!

12 piece bucket 06-29-2005 01:36 PM

I guess what he means by "don't add" is not to break down or swing from the wrists? No machine components swings forward independently?


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