I would call my "Putting" with EA dynamic tension because I hold back against EA with my slightly bent left arm.

I suppose during the down-stroke of a full stroke a little bit of that is also occurring.

Daryl

you feel that slightly arch left wrist is best position to come in towards impact for a horizontal hinge swivel.
Then how does the right arm contribute. or does the right arm contribute at all during the impact zone?

"Closing arguement" to the jury
 

I am going to try and make my point one more time. Because I believe it is important.
Analogy- the triangle should be structurally sound LIKE A CARPENTERS FOLDING RULER. Lay the ruler on a table and make a triangle. Several sections in each side. OK. The side representing the right arm can be bent at an intermediate joint in that side and that will change the angles but the other two sides do not change length. EA “stretch” the left arm side?? I argue should say holds straight. I also argue that the shoulder side does not receive the instructive attention needed. The shoulder side should receive minimal distortion during a swing. 2-M-3. The list (total list of shoulder muscles not 2-m-3 list) of muscles available – (for compensation?????)- in the shoulders is very long. I see only 2 muscles of the shoulders that are useful to golf. Deltoids-only front deltoids. for lifting the arms and pectorals to hold the shoulders forward. Once you get to top you don’t need the deltoids any more. EA is just one tool used to make a solid structure. AND it does not MOVE or flex or lengthen the other sides. It stiffens the structure but so does the pectorals and the mental intention to make the structure solid. EA is important but only a part of what it is intended to “PREVENT”. I make this argument as a one piece arguement that should be read as one piece.


The Bear (again)

Sorry in Advance for the following Vapid Post.

HK wrote:

I'm referring to a very Slight Arch. It's just a Tip, Gimmick, manipulation, an added insurance. If the Hands don't continue Down-Plane through the Impact Interval to Low Point, you'll need to fake it by Rolling your Hands. That's where my Arched Left Wrist Trick comes in Handy. If your Hands don't travel all of the Way Down to Low-point, and you don't Fake the Hinge by Rolling your Hands, then you'll Angle Hinge.

So how does Accumulator #3 Swivel the Left Wrist to Vertical for Impact?

The Key, is to fearlessly allow the Hands to continue Down-Plane through the Impact Interval.

While the Right Elbow is Straightening during Release, when using a Turned Right Wrist, the Right Elbow will Counterclockwise Rotate the #3 Accumulator a few degrees IF the Hands continue Down-Plane. But who does that? :laughing9

I'm thinking of the Primary Lever when pulled by CF. When the whole Left Arm and Clubshaft form this Lever, the Sweetspot Plane is the Center of Gravity of the entire Lever. Any Rotation should around the Sweetspot Plane, not the Shaft Plane, which is the way it is when the Hands continue Downplane and allow the Flying Wedges and #3 Pressure Point to Rotate Counterclockwise to Vertical for Impact and for Horizontal Hinging. If the Hands aren't going Down through Impact, then any Hand Rotation will cause the Sweetspot to Rotate around the Shaft.

Maximum Right Elbow Bend at Release is needed to Insure that the Hands Continue Down through Impact.

Right Arm Participation is considerable for a Swinger as well as a Hitter. The Right Forearm Wedge controls Roll. Roll is Clubhead (Location), Hinging is Clubface. Left Hand, Right Hand.

I like it.

I used to do this, when putting, only. The "push me pull you" version of E.A. Not sure how you resist but I did it with my left hand as opposed to the shoulder. I too have a slightly bent left arm and left hand.

But I dont any more. Not since hearing that Homer saw no use for EA with a bent left arm.

Im thinking that at issue, amongst other things, is a constant Radius. Now if you perfectly match the EA with a counter pull at the left hand, there is no issue but perhaps no point either. You've zeroed out the E.A.'s stretch of the left arm. For me it was a stretch between the two hands only. It felt like something but it was just hand tension as opposed to true EA.

Ive goofed around with a straight left arm , flat left wrist Crenshaw style so I could employ E.A. (Lynn encouraged me to try to try a flat left wrist when putting). It has a lot of benefits to it. Very much like Chip Basic, tons of structure to the flying wedges, you can get to both arms straight, its easy to isolate one arm as the power source (assuming you're Zone 2 putting) etc. But there's a lot of water under the bridge now , its hard to make a change like that.

Tipity tips
 

I woke up this morning and started to think again- that is seldom good for me and does no one else any good at all. But here goes my ramble. I think what TGM is and what G.O.L.F. is. I think what a fine system of learning and developing a golf “game” it is. I am reminded that a basis is the book. What a fine but difficult book it is- thanks HK-. Then I see what a fine teacher and communicator and demonstrator of the “Alignments” and translation and understanding Yoda is- Thanks Yoda. We are all lucky. Then I recall Ben Doyle. “gentle ben” because he has a way of communicating to a big guy how to take all that will to attack into a gentle “touchy- feely” world. Then I read again chapter 4 and 5 particular 4-D and 5. A how it all fits because it is Imperative that I include 1. “Flat” left wrist 2. Lag pressure point and a straight plane line and all with Rhythm Balance and a steady head. Then I think about how I handle some of this and what is the feel. When I swing I have a very light grip. Barely touch the club. Swing my wrists and let the hands do what the have learned almost automatic. Sometimes I throw in a little #2 intentional uncock to get things” zipping” But that is my thing. When I hit I have am “more solid” grip and I use my hand more- I say hands not fingers. OK now I am ready for more TIPS and that is great because This has to be turned over again and again in my computer. Whaiting for the chicks to all hatch.
End my ramble in the lounge.

The Bear

I really wondering how important accumulator #3 is? Tim Clark is known to be unable to supinate his left arm. On playing lesson he describes how he cannot even turn out with his left hand to get change from a drive in window!
Granted he's not that much of a chipper or a long hitter. But really accurate fairway player.

My point is that left forearm supination is part of the swivel process and it interesting to see how even top professional dont utilize all the accumulators to full potential. I think one the reasons his percentage in greens in regulation is so high that he cant under swivel or over swivel thru the ball offline.

just my 2cents:eyes:

Did I miss the Sat. morning post...deleted? ..postponed?

Sorry. I'm having Technical difficulties. I need a couple of more days. A rain delay. :(