Maybe some of us are talking about the cf present in the pivot Zone 1 ( necessary for cf throw off of the left arm) while some others are talking about the cf at the Primary Lever Zone 2. CF being present in different zones. A classic 3 B Hitter executing Acquired Motion with Pivot Motion only as opposed to Pivot Work (active pulling) would have little or zero Zone 1 cf, but still have cf in his primary lever zone 2 the arms. cf the force that is . He won't use it as a release trigger.

I dunno. Only Homer could get my head hurting like this. Everything is turning , spinning , throwing out , I'm gonna throw up pretty soon.

Kiss
 

Let's keep it simple;
1-L - 9. Regardless of how the Lever Assembly is driven, it moves in a circle.

HB

If there is angular motion there is CF, but its effect on release are zeroed by the hitter. See: 6-F-0

Bumpy

Not zeroed, Bumpy.

It is getting "help" by the driveout. Or the driveout is getting help from CF. They help each other.

OK, zeroed might be the wrong word, not sure help is correct either.


Per 6-F-0 ".....totally annuling and stifling any intrusion by CF".

If there is no intrusion, I'm going to regard its effect on the "overtaking rate" as PASSIVE.

If there was any "helping" going on I would be pulling and pushing at the same time.


Bumpy


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There AIN'T NO C.F. IN TRUE HITTING END OF STORY HOMER WROTE THE BOOK THE END GO SPEND Forty YEARS WORTH OF RESEARCH AND FELT BACK TO ME ALL YOU PIONEER'S IF GOLF THEOREM

What do you want who to do?
 

Could U be a little more specific?

hb

So the topic has now morphed into "Circles in Hitting" ??? :laughing9

the answer is YES
 

I am providing a direct quote:

Chapter #1, Section L -The Machine Concept #9 of the 21 machine requirements.

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Yes. from the dynamics of circlular motin/angular motion we get cf


HB

The original poster's topic was "CF in Hitting". The only reasonable interpretation of that is "The use of CF in Hitting", not the existential presence of CF. Some are saying that because the left arm moves in a circle, there is CF, and most of those are saying that it's preempted by muscle, but no one has come right out and said that CF manifests itself in increased club head power over and above that from the right triceps. And they'd better not, because that is tantamount to saying that Hitting has a #4 PA, and therefore 12-1-0, Component 4 - Triple barrel(1/2/3) is incorrect.