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12 piece bucket 11-17-2005 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cometgolfer
12 Piece,

It does sort of make sense. I've always fretted about what I understand is my "double-shift to the elbow plane" (a little like Sergio's old move). One of the best things I did was have Brian M look at a video of my swing. After he told me to not worry about the double-shift I got back to just "swinging" and not constantly fiddling with trying to eliminate that shift. My ball-strking has been really good the last few months and I don't spend all my practice time trying to eliminate what seems to be my natural motion. That equates to more short game time and I feel like I'm playing to my zero handicap again.

I still think there is more precision to be had in my swing, but it doesn't consume me like it used to.

My thinking would be that assuming one has a properly educated set of hands . . . may be a Plane Shift can be a good thing. If you know that you are gonna be "under" everytime, things would be a bit easier to predict. You could be more "under" sometimes but at least you know it's some degree of "under" EVERYTIME.

This is all assuming effective Clubface control via apporpriate Hinge Action.

cometgolfer 11-17-2005 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
My thinking would be that assuming one has a properly educated set of hands . . . may be a Plane Shift can be a good thing. If you know that you are gonna be "under" everytime, things would be a bit easier to predict. You could be more "under" sometimes but at least you know it's some degree of "under" EVERYTIME.

This is all assuming effective Clubface control via apporpriate Hinge Action.

Exactly. I know that I'm going to be "under" some 99% of the time (verrrrry rarely do I get "over"), so there's predictability in that part of the downswing motion. My hands have gotten much more educated over the last couple of years which is key as you stated. Over-acceleration and/or "adding" are my primary concerns now. If you're a swinger I think even if you're "under" it some, as long as you don't interfere with CF (and you have rhythm), your result will be "negotiable".

annikan skywalker 11-17-2005 06:48 PM

Preachin to the Choir
 
And the Choir said.......................Amen

EC 11-17-2005 08:55 PM

Skywalker...
 
Couldn't help but notice that AS's student successfully made it through Stage Two of PGA Tour Qualifying...way to go El and D.O.!

EC

annikan skywalker 11-17-2005 09:16 PM

Thanx ...but he did it ...on his own...

I'm very happy and relieved for him....

1 out of 5 horses made it to the Derby(Final Stage)....

3 others made it to the Paddock (through first stage)

EC...hope things are well !

lagster 11-17-2005 11:54 PM

Under?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cometgolfer
Exactly. I know that I'm going to be "under" some 99% of the time (verrrrry rarely do I get "over"), so there's predictability in that part of the downswing motion. My hands have gotten much more educated over the last couple of years which is key as you stated. Over-acceleration and/or "adding" are my primary concerns now. If you're a swinger I think even if you're "under" it some, as long as you don't interfere with CF (and you have rhythm), your result will be "negotiable".

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Under? Under Plane? You would not want to get much UNDER PLANE, or you will tend to get FAT SHOTS, PUSHS, AND HOOKS.

If you do it just right, you might could play a sweeping draw.

annikan skywalker 11-18-2005 09:38 AM

A simple remedy for the players who are under a little...Play from an Open Stance Line and play inside out cut shots....

Fred Couples...Lee Buck

If you're two much under check to make sure you do not have too much axis tilt, lateral bending of the upper spine, "perverted pitch", etc...

12 piece bucket 11-18-2005 09:57 AM

Masters Degree in Degrees
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
A simple remedy for the players who are under a little...Play from an Open Stance Line and play inside out cut shots....

Fred Couples...Lee Buck

If you're two much under check to make sure you do not have too much axis tilt, lateral bending of the upper spine, "perverted pitch", etc...

How much "open" Pops? Horizontal or Angled Hinge Action? Cross-Line procedure?

cometgolfer 11-18-2005 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lagster
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Under? Under Plane? You would not want to get much UNDER PLANE, or you will tend to get FAT SHOTS, PUSHS, AND HOOKS.

If you do it just right, you might could play a sweeping draw.

Lagster,

The "under" portion of my swing is primarily from transition to waist high where it tends to get more on-plane approaching impact. When I over-accelerate or "add" is when things get a little dicey - normally resulting in a push or a block. If I stay relaxed, I think the "un-interfered with" CF helps things get properly aligned into impact. Brian also suggested using a rolled up towel placed lengthwise just inside the target line (sort of a reverse "Inside Approach" training aid), to help get the feeling of not being too inside/under approaching impact.

annikan skywalker 11-19-2005 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
How much "open" Pops? Horizontal or Angled Hinge Action? Cross-Line procedure?


Degrees?..That's too technical!!!

How about...Slight, Moderate, and Excessive...

Will they work?

:D


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