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Delaware Golf 12-05-2006 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniell
Hi DG,

TT mentioned in the video that he is using a push basic stroke pattern. This really clears up some frustration for me as I was trying to use a pitch basic stroke and ran into some problems.

However, isn't a push basic stroke pattern a hitting procedure? Or would you classify the right arm swing as a modified hitting procedure?

cheers,

daniel

I believe Tommy referenced the Push basic stroke due to the comment in 10-3-C ..."It is fairly independent of Hip motion and location." a la the quiet body concept...really, is Tommy using a "From an "up-and-out" Elbow Position"??? Nada...

Sorry, Tommy is using a pitch basic stroke for the swinging procedure and a punch basic for hitting. From your comment, you might be executing the pitch basic stroke incorrectly....especially if you're generating big slices...with the Driver! For the correct move in the downstroke, checkout the extensor action drill Tommy executes in the Australia chapter series videos...I highly recommend you watch all of the Tomasello videos and write down all of the drills...then, practice them daily or as much as possible.

DG

ChangeMySwing 12-06-2006 04:56 PM

DW,

Have you experimented with using a 10-2-d style grip with TT's pattern?

daniell 12-07-2006 12:25 AM

Hi DG,

Thank you very much.

The part I was refering to is between 14.45 to 15.00 on the letter video part 2.

cheers,

daniel

Delaware Golf 12-07-2006 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniell
Hi DG,

Thank you very much.

The part I was refering to is between 14.45 to 15.00 on the letter video part 2.

cheers,

daniel


Minutes earlier....Tommy said "throw it down and out, push it down and out, however you want to call it"...


It's a pitch basic stroke....a right forearm underhand pitch...in the end, Tommy's swinging the club (per 7-3).

DG

ChangeMySwing 12-11-2006 06:30 PM

Are you guys using impact fix with this pattern?

I perform the extensor action drill over the ball before every shot, and doing this naturally places me at impact fix.

daniell 12-14-2006 06:17 AM

I feel that Tomasello's video and letter series is still incomplete without Evershed's explanations, especially in the hands and pivot action.

powerdraw 12-14-2006 08:49 AM

daniell, could you give us a summary of how Evershed explains it, sometimes 2 stones are aiming the same target, one stone is easier to throw for one person than the other. I mean, it might be two feels or descriptions for the same purpose.
thanks, i still love this thread guyz.

ChangeMySwing 12-14-2006 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerdraw
daniell, could you give us a summary of how Evershed explains it, sometimes 2 stones are aiming the same target, one stone is easier to throw for one person than the other. I mean, it might be two feels or descriptions for the same purpose.
thanks, i still love this thread guyz.

Mark Evershed’s Knowledge Video:


Mark divides the swing into six parts:

Quiet Body: Creates a stable base for the arms and hands
Faults: fat/ thin shots

Educated Hands: Creates speed
Fault: lack of distance

On-Plane Arms: Accuracy secondary power source
Fault: sprayed shots

Square Stance: all of the above faults

Sequence: The combination of all of the above components.
Fault: Pulled shots for low handicap players; sprayed shots for high handicap players.

Ball Position: Allows the on-plane arms to square the club face.
Fault: shots that deviate to whether the ball is too far forward or back.

Evershed’s focal point of the swing is the right hand instead of the magic of the right forearm(inevitably you are using the right forearm). He focuses on the bent back motion of the right hand and maintaining this position throughout the swing. Mark’s swing is more aligned with the pattern that is showed in TT’s Australian Series, but he never mentions the use of the right arm karate chop motion that TT mentions. Think forearm slap instead of a karate chop (Maximum Participation Stroke--- Ben Doyle says YES)

daniell 02-08-2007 03:59 AM

Hi guys,

Have not been back for a while and a lot of replies seems to have been deleted. What a disappointment ..

Anyway, I now know that what said in those deleted posts are correct. My improvement have been tremendous, at least to my satisfaction. I have not been at the range much, just been playing twice a week. Hits are good, contact is good, distance is fine. Playing mostly a bogey game. Improve on my short game and putting and I'm very certain I should be able to go to single handicap.

cheers.

alex_chung 02-08-2007 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniell (Post 38563)
Hi guys,

Have not been back for a while and a lot of replies seems to have been deleted. What a disappointment ..

Anyway, I now know that what said in those deleted posts are correct. My improvement have been tremendous, at least to my satisfaction. I have not been at the range much, just been playing twice a week. Hits are good, contact is good, distance is fine. Playing mostly a bogey game. Improve on my short game and putting and I'm very certain I should be able to go to single handicap.

cheers.

Why would they be deleted? Here is a post that the admins posted up earlier in the month:

Bad News / Good News

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Bad new first. We've had a very unusual problem with our database; all post and private message data since December 15 was corrupted, and unfortunately this corrupt data found its way into our nightly backups. As you'll be able to tell we didn't lose all the forum data; users registered during that time are fine, the gallery is OK, as are most other portions of the site. I'm doing what I can to recover the missing data, but at this point it isn't looking good. We're especially sorry that we lost some of the great material posted this past month by Jeff Hull and Vickie, two of our resident experts.

The good news is that we're taking advantage of this down time to make some upgrades to our site. This weekend we're going to keep the forum in read-only mode; you'll be able to browse forums, watch videos, etc..., but you won't be able to post. On Monday we plan to turn on a new, upgraded version of the forum software and gallery. This is going to allow us to do and offer more for our great membership in 2007. We've also got some great videos in our pipeline that I'm sure you'll enjoy. Thanks for your patience, and be sure to visit regularly over the coming weeks!

If you've sent a private message to Yoda regarding lessons and have not yet heard back, please send him another note to make sure you can connect and setup a visit to the swamp.


This might explain why some of your posts are missing.
Alex


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