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Advice needed...
I have a few players who Top Arc /Angled Line who when they shift...from Turned Shoulder to the Elbow plane sometimes shift too low down to the Hands Only Plane through impact... Thus running out of right arm.... Any ideas on how to reduce, but not eliminate..this excessive shift downward... I have some ideas ...but would like to hear others!!!! Skywalker |
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How with this suggestion compensate for the change in the plane shift....Don't want to experiment unless we can forecast what will happen...I'm dealing with tournament level players here...NOT....wannabe's... thanx for your quick response and input
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skywalker - what level are you talking about? I can't imagine any player who runs out of right arm, getting to a tournament level. At any rate wouldn't the easier fix be to change the player to a no-shift turned shoulder plane?
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work on maintaining extensor action during the downswing (assuming impact fix is correct)
are these players staying 'centered' or are they coming a bit out of their impact fix alignments? |
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Well alrighty then - we can get to the solution by elimination of bad ideas :roll: .
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Maybe take a shorter backswing or one that feels shorter????
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Teach them how to trace with the right forearm. Also show them what a straight line delivery path looks and feels like. Once they understand tracing a straight plane line, they may not feel like that have to shift so much to get on plane. It will feel like they go staight back down to the ball, that should be enough to get back on plane.
Or you could experiment with them having the feel of rotaing pp#3 to the top of the shaft on the downstroke, rather than feeling behind or slightly under. Players of that caliber should pick that up relatively easy. |
Thanks for your responses...off to the lab!!!
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Sergio does this, and it seems to me that the only way to comensate is to rotate body hard through impact. The only success I have had is to get the player to feel very open with shoulders at impact(30 deg or more). That move is very hard to change in a player that is at the level that you are talking about.
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The obvious: Dowel Drills!
Annikan,
Do the Right Forearm Angle of Approach dowel Drill, which I'm sure you know a lot about already. Set up at Fix with the dowels, then just bring the dowel straight up and down, making sure the dowel stays on the same plane throughout. This can only be achieved if the Right Wrist stays Level, its amount of Bend remains constant, and the Hands stay on the same plane. Get your players to feel the Right Forearm going towards that Angle of Approach with a straight line effort. A very simply motion: straight up and straight down. I know the above produces a Zero Shift, which is not what you're looking for. But trust me, you must exaggerate what is correct to make changes. Another drill: Stick a dowel into the ground at the desired Elbow Plane Angle (or even Turned Shoulder Plane angle for the purpose of this drill). Get an impact bag and have your player going from Release to Impact using the plane angle you've just set. You have the option of setting it up so that if the player goes under plane, his club/dowel will hit the dowel beneth. If you're not around to coach, he can use a mirror. Make sure everthing is On Plane. Once the player has a describable sensation of the Elbow plane from Release to Impact, do the same drill but start from the Top rather than Release. Please report back to me Annikan. Good luck! |
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Would you say these players are "under" plane, or shifting to an ON PLANE, but very shallow HANDS PLANE? |
Yes...one player has dropped below plane the other is on-plane ...
but on the hands only through impact... Ironically ...both are female golfers...Very,Very Good Female golfers!!! Both left handed...Wierd...huh!!! Tong, Thanks for the suggestions...we'll give it a shot and see what happens.... |
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