Monitoring #3 pressure point
 

How does one monitor #3 pressure point as a means of distance control? I never notice any difference in the way PP#3 feels, regardless of the length of the shot I am making, so I assume that I am doing something wrong, or simply don't know what it is that I'm supposed to monitor. I hope that this question makes sense. Thanks for your help.

teach

P.S.- I'm a swinger.

Sensing the Swinger's Lag Pressure Point
 

teach,

If you have Clubhead Feel, you have Clubhead Lag. That's because Clubhead Feel is Clubhead Lag.

Think of the Lag Pressure you feel during Start Down as a stone you are going to throw. How much pressure would you feel in your hand if you were going to throw a stone two feet? How about ten feet? How about 100 feet? In each case, there would be a definite difference in pressure, right? That is the same differentiating pressure you sense in a good Golf Stroke.

And remember, until well into the Downstroke in most Strokes, the Swinger's #3 Pressure Point is against the top of the Shaft and the first knuckle of the right hand forefinger, not against the back of the Shaft and against the 'meaty part' of the forefinger.

So, sense the pressure -- normal, light or heavy -- against the true #3 Pressure Point, and use it to control your distances.

For some of my advanced students, I will actually put a little ball of Play Dough® between the grip and where their #3 Pressure Point.

If they want to hit the ball further, I have them think "Flatten the Play Dough ball a lot" and then do it. This is plus.

If they want to hit the ball with less gas, I have them think "Flatten the Play Dough Ball a little" and then do it. This is minus.

Per 6-C-2-0: "Establish your "normal" procedure per 2-M-2, then its "plus" and "minus" variations in five increments."

This method of varying distance goes against what Pop Golf instruction teaches, which is to vary distance by altering swing length or swing speed.

However, those procedures do not give place to the 2nd imperative per 2-0-B-2, Clubhead Lag Pressure Point, which is the weight that Lynn is talking about when throwing a stone.

Bad throwers of a stone don't feel the weight of it.
Bad users of a golf club don't feel the weight of the club.

Clubhead feel is sweetspot feel for all #3 Pressure Point sensing functions per 2-F of the 7th edition.

Per 6-C-0: "Clubhead Lag (7-19) promotes even and steady acceleration, assuring DEPENDABLE control of distance."

There are lots more stuff regarding what this thread goes into and for the folks who are interested, definitely read:

3-F-6
6-C-2-0
6-C-2-D
6-F-1 and
9-2 -Zone 2 Club Control is the Power Zone and includes component 11, pressure point combination.

I have been extremely enriched by what Lynn has shared with me personally and on the forums about Clubhead Speed. Also do a search on Thrust, Acceleration and Speed by Lynn.

I cannot remember what the name of the thread or the post is. It be worth the hunt for it. It goes into greater depth as to what is being discussed here.

You have just won the 2006 MOST CREATIVE KOOLAID NUGGET AWARD with this idea! I don't see this one getting topped!

You are my golf hero!

Learning From The Singapore Slinger
 

The feeling is mutual, Justin. Thank you for your enthusiasm and your many contributions to our site.

Also...

Love your new avatar! Many lessons can be learned just studying it, beginning with the Flat Left Wrist, Clubhead Lag Pressure and Centered Head.

Thanks for the extremely gracious words Colonel!

Where I belong...
 

Lynn,

Thank you for the kind words. The gracious hospitality on this site stokes my enthusiasm giving rise to my contributions.

Thank you !
 

Thank you for your responses. They are *very* helpful!

Yoda, the precision of your reply greatly furthered my understanding of exactly where and how I should feel the pressure. This will make a huge difference in my practice, and eventually in my play.
Comdpa, I absolutely love your idea with the play dough. I will buy some tomorrow. This is a truly brilliant "training aid." For novices such as myself, such advice is priceless. The rest of your post was also most helpful
Gentlemen, you have enlightened me, (and others, no doubt), and for that I am very grateful. Thank you.

teach

Yoda,

This might be a bit obtuse, but from the quote above, "top of the shaft" would be defined from the alignments at address. And at the top of the swing would actually be facing down into the right knuckle?

(If this is the case, it really defogs the "rotating pp#3" idea)

Lifting the Fog from the Rotating Lag Pressure Point
 

Rchang,

As Homer Kelley would say: "Kee-rect!" The thumb and forefinger contact points with the Shaft do not change. However, due to the Swinger's Start Up Swivel, the Top of the Shaft Loads against the first knuckle.

For the Hitter, there has been no Start Up Swivel. Hence, the Loading remains on the Aft side of the Shaft and against the meaty part of the Right Forefinger.

Denny, you are too kind with your words...:)

Although I already had a great memory before my association with TGM, it was watching Yoda on one of the video clips that gave me the impetus to memorize the book.

As Yoda will attest to it, memorizing the book really aids in linking all the information in it together and having the means to "let the book interpret itself."

Yoda,

Can you clarify the PP3 a bit for the newcomer?

Which area ( in the picture below ) do you refer to in your above post, thanks?

<--- there's a picture here....refresh your page if it's hidden

What about pp3 distance control with putting & chipping?
 

What about pp3 distance control with putting & chipping?

asleep- depending on the grip. I like to feel #3pp on the fat fleshy pad just below your number '3'. Sometimes I feel #3pp at your number 2 if I got myself a good Ben Doyle Trigger finger. What is important is that #3 is located behind the shaft at address where the right index finger touches the lowest point down the shaft. Let the grip fix its location, IMHO. And leave it there. No loose grips.

Great picture dude!

PP3 is by strict definition #2 in your picture . . . HOWEVER and this is a BIG however . . . it can also be #3 in your picture for a Swinger. The Swinger's #3 Pressure Point, due to the nature of the Right Forearm supporting the On-Plane Loading of the Clubshaft, Standard Wrist Action and typically going to End instead of Top, actually Loads the Pressure Point Pressure on the knuckle (#3 in your pic). That load can stay there making it a Weak Single Action Grip (due to the #3 Pressure Point being on top of the shaft) or it can move back down to #2 in your picture . . . the "fleshy pad."

To get a feel for this take the club and stop at shoulder high being sure not to let the pressure come of #2 in your pic. Then go to End . . . past shoulder high . . . feel the pressure load on the knuckle (#3 in your picture)?

Thanks for posting that pic . . . very good!

Nice calluses (sp?) by the way . . . hope you got them playing golf :)

For Chipping and Pitching #3pp control is all about the amount of Lag Pressure. Light Lag pressure for short shots, Heavy Lag pressure for longer shots. It is not the speed of the arms or the length of the stroke for small shots. Yoda likens it to an outfielder throwing a ball to any player on the infield with the same arm motion, regardles of distance. Dailed in.

Putting? I'm out of here. :laughing1

Here's a cool quote from Homer about Lag and #3pp:

Homer: "It [the Lag] just sags in there [the meaty part of the Right Forefinger]. It goes along because it has to. You don't throw the Club: You drag it through like a baby brother."

Thanks Lynn!

A'ight, now....there are innocent women and children on board.:naughty:

Interesting answers.

Big hand
 

Great photo asleep!!! That's exactly what's needed in a forum which promotes precision. Should be more of it.