Tour Prefered
 

Recently bought a Taylor Made TP R5 Dual.Whilst the shaft is obviously different(diamana 83g),the head feels and sounds different to my previous (non TP) R5.Are TP heads that different?Any comments would be appreciated

TP Heads
 

Neil,

My understanding on the TP rescue clubs is that the "non-TP" heads are internally weighted with a draw bias. I would imagine it's similar with the drivers as well.

CG

I could be mistaken, but I think the TP versions set up "square" while the non-TP versions set up "closed."

True. Square.

They are also built to feel more solidly I believe....or at least different.....

....and heavier....with a higher centre of gravity.....for less spin, which produces a flatter trajectory shape.

Thanks for the comments.The TP is certainly square -that's the reason I bought it -makes a huge difference to the shot shape.Your comments on weighting make sense,feels much heavier.Thanks

I hit a copule of these (and the R7 tp) at a TM demo day...wow! It felt much different than the non TP models...really, really heavy and solid through impact. Every shot felt and sounded like the ball was absolutely mashed.

The rep said that the TP models are 1-2 degrees open, and the shaft accounted for the difference in feel.

so...you want to sell yours cheap? :D :D

Heck of a shaft. Did you happen to hit the same head in another shaft for comparison?

I didn't but would like to. My driver needs a different shaft, so I'm looking...

Little bit of misinformation
 

Just want to let everyone know that if you find a square retail golf club, you are truly lucky. Even the TP versions are between 1.5 and .5 degrees closed, and still have the draw bias, although less than the non-tp versions. The only way to truly have a square or open face and remove draw bias is to 1) Have hot melt added to the head and get it cranked open, or 2) Buy a tour issue driver.

Tempest in a teapot.
 

I personally think the whole open-faced, closed-faced thing is overrated. I can draw or fade just about any club I have at will, be it be it a Duffy ridge top 200 tour fairway wood, a closed face, draw biased Nicklaus Air Max driver, my old non offset Hogan Director irons or my hook faced Cleveland TA-5 irons. Same for shafts. My shaft flexes are all over the place. The only club I have that I have I have trouble drawing is a Nickent Genex 3dx 20* hackstick with a ladies flex shaft. It likes to make about a 2-3 yard fade. Go figgure. :)

Yes but think of this. when your playing with a closed face, you have to move the ball further back in the stance. To effectively hit the driver, it needs to be forward in your stance, to hit it right at low point. Also, when your playing with a driver a little open, you have no fear of the big left miss, and you can aggressively horizontal hinge. Just my take.

From what i read in forums. Slightly Thicker face in the TP, thus different feel. and lower trajectory.

I agree,thats why I bought the TP.With the standard R5 if I got too agressive -look out left!

Yes, or you can open the face on your driver (or any club) the one degree or so necessary to make the face square, just as you would a wedge in a bunker. Then you don't have to move the ball back in your stance.

The point I'm making is, it's the Indian, not the Arrow. I'm not against tweeking clubs, or buying tour equipment (and believe me, I have been just as guilty of being a major club ho as any member of this site), but if you are a good ball striker, any equipment will get the job done.

If you fight a hook, you can fix your machine, or you can spend a small fortune on a genuwhine deeluxe Koolaide tour head bent open with a limited edition moon rock XXX Diarazmataz custom painted shaft (logo down, and grip reversed, cuz them letters, Golf Pride, is sooo distracting). I can even refer you to the web site of a certain snake oil salesman who will be happy to personally fit you (for a mere $1000 a pop for the fitting alone) with this fine gear.

:) :) :) :) :) :) (lotsa smiley faces here to let you know I'm speaking in the spirit of jest).

That is pretty funny - :laughing9

Although you speak in the spirit of jest, there is a lotta truth in there too!

I'm kinda picky about my clubs (fitted irons and woods) and I don't change too often (now putters are a diff story). :)

I was in Myrtle Beach on business a few years ago. Got a chance to play a round of golf but I didn't have any clubs with me. So I use the shop rentals (Wilsons with the "fat shafts") and I bought a sleeve of "gently used Titleist Professional" balls (you know the ones they recover from a lake and repaint and that go out of round after 1 or 2 shots). I think I shot 71 with that set-up. Go figure.