Right elbow
 

Since the bending of the right elbow, according to TT, causes cocking of the left wrist , a larger bending of the elbow would cock the left wrist even more, thereby increasing the potential power in the downswing. However, does the decreased width with a right elbow bend larger than 90 degrees in the backstroke and the longer way(time) to a straight right arm , in reality decrease the power?

According to Homer Kelley the bending of the right elbow cocks the left wrist, this is correct but a larger bending adds nothing. It breaks down structure. The wrist cock angle is not extreme, just a few inches from Level to Cocked. No over bending of the right elbow is going to increaase that. This is more of a Hitter's procedure- muscle bend and cock. A swinger's right elbow still bends and cocks the LW but with more momentum than simply muscle action.

It is the turning power of the pivot, the gyro crank of the right shoulder thrust that allows CF to uncock the left wrist that supplies power- not the wrist angle. (Swinger)

re Right elbow
 

Many thanks for Your answer, reliable 6bmike! It solves the dilemma between width and sharp angles for me!

Acording to Homer . . . the only way to FEEL the right elbow is IN THE RIGHT ELBOW . . . not in the muscles. So if you are going under plane . . . you have FEEL AS IF your right elbow is cocking UP.

remember extensor action- it folds the right arm at the elbow because the left arm "leash."

It's one heck of a machine !

Right elbow are never truly passive because of extensor action

Not Elbow but Right Triceps can never be totally "passive." Which moves the elbow, of course.

Extensor Action is a straightline pull on the left arm- it doesn't move the left arm but does provide support to the left wrist cock. On the downstroke thru PP3 it pulls in a straightline both the left arm and shaft. Its direction is always below the Plane. This effect on the clubshaft can also be used to flatten the left wrist in line with the shaft on the take-away, too.

ACK.. yeah tricep :)

Which of course folds or straightens the elbow. D'uh. Silly me.

I got back on to add that to my last post but you beat me to it.

But the hugest difference is already written in the chapter called extensor action. Its right there for us to read , digest and understand.

Stick that chapter to our forehead and basically all this confusion about right forearm ( Ala TT and DG), and Passive/active( extensor action) would just go away. One of the key is whether the extensor action is applied to pressure point 1 or 3 is also huge, often demonstrated by Lynn. A huge clue to work on I'd say :)

GONG XI FAT CHOI..

Right elbow
 

I was at the range today and I believe that I have experienced a beginning of a journey along the TT-swing road. By firing the right forearm down and obliquely out to the right with a quiet body, I shot some of the best shots I have ever done with my 5 wood.

Which Hinge action did you feel? Did the pivot feel like a platform to push off. I sometimes feel like a side armed baseball pitcher doing this. The pivot kind follows the throwing motion.

Right elbow
 

6bmike! I can´t tell for sure which type of hinge I experienced. The swing just felt like an active straightening of the right elbow out and down to the right against a stable body which then responded by a pivot. I think that the hinging was horizontal.

Sounds like you were crushing them. :)

It is a great feeling.

Seeking the Truth
 

As TT would say you're getting closer to the truth.

Pivot provides the outward motion at release. See 2-N-1, 7th edition.

DG . . . Could you expand on the above? I noticed that change from the 6th . . . What's the scoop?

I am playing with a right arm swinging motion, however the active whip action of the right arm leads me to keep the clubface open. I've had more success by just leading the swing with my right elbow and not actively trying to straighten the right arm, it just does so on it's own.

I'm sure I'm doing something incorrectly, that's keeping me from squaring the club, most likely I'm angled hinging instead of horizontal.

Open face with right arm swinging.
 

When that happens to me I immediately say "Whoops, didn't get it on plane at the top with flat left wrist" and/or I didn't throw it down on plane.
I tell myself "extensor action, right forearm pickup, straighten right elbow throwing it on plane, right into the ground."
Oh, yeah, trust it. Fat/thin shots are a timing issue, in my experience. The left side didn't respond correctly on the throw.

right elbow
 

Is a flat left wrist still compulsory when hitting out and down by straightening of the right elbow?

Flat left wrist/bent right....imperative.
 

Yes. Flat left wrist is an imperative....throughout, into finish.

The Three Imperatives- 2-0-B- are the same for all strokes- Hitting or Swinging. The Flat Left wrist is half of the Flying Wedges. EVERYTHING TGM flows through The Flying Wedges.

From the Preface: " And the number one alignment is the Flat Left Wrsit (Law Of The Flail 2-K). Without it, more infromation means only more confusion."