Swinger's Right Arm
 

With Standard Swinging... the Right Arm does not straighten as a result of actively firing that Barrel, but it does straighten due to the action of the forces of the Swing. The book indicates that normally all strokes go to Both-Arms-Straight.

Have any of you run into Swingers whose Right Arm never gets to the Straight Position(Both-Arms-Straight), but remains Bent? Since with Swinging, the Right Arm is usually passive, what have you found works well to correct this, or what have you found to be the cause of this?

interested spectator
 

Well i'll be interested in the responses to this thread, as i seem to be one of the swingers Lagster's talking about. I had a lesson with an AI last week and seem to have this exact problem and it was causing unwanted fades.

I was told that if it didn't happen naturally i should do it consciously. I was also given a drill to swing with my right hand only with a bungee cord attached to the location the ball would be.

Maybe it's possible that, in an effort to not actively straighten the right arm, swingers with this problem are actually holding it back?

Tri-angles
 

The only way for the right arm to staighten, is for the left arm to move away from the chest.

Pivot issues?

Begs the question of are you still on plane through the entire stroke?

Being passive doesn’t imply it isn’t employed. The right arm always- ALWAYS- is straightening. From address to finish, all the right arm wants to do is become straight. The Left arm prevents that on the Take-away (Checkrein Action) but nothing prevents that on the Down Stroke. It isn’t the power source number one accumulator a hitter uses but it is the motion number one accumulator a Swinger uses to stay On Plane.

When is it straight? Just PAST Low Point. At Impact the right arm is still bent. So some might feel it not ever straight. It isn’t at the ‘moment of truth.’

A ‘true’ Swinger that relies solely on CF should have no problem with the power generated by the Throw-out to straighten the right arm.

Bending the elbow too much.
 

This is not something I usually see. In fact, it is usually the opposite.

Over-active right bicep muscle, not Releasing the Fourth Power Accumulator sufficiently, Off-Plane, fear of hurting the right elbow are places to begin...Is the player even capable of physicaly straightening it ?

Per 7-1, For the Swinger, CF Uncocks both the Left Wrist and Right Elbow; 7-19 and 7-20. So both must remain Passive, but never Whippy.

Yes sir! So how does one go about achieving Passive but never Whippy?

Flying Wedges, dude!

Dictionary English
 

I agree.

Passive-acted upon by an external agency, receptive to outside influences, inactive, submissive, existing without being active.

Whippy-springy, resilient

Maybe I shouldn't be using these two words together in a golf forum.

Going around in circles.....
 

Years later.....same silly debates.

DG

At Release
 

Per the Magic of the Right Forearm and Tomasello's instruction per Homer Kelley.....For the Swinger, CF Uncocks both the Left Wrist and Right Elbow....yes, the golfer uses the right forearm to start the uncocking of the right elbow from the top (see 7-3 and 2-N-1 from the 7th edition)....CF Uncocks both the Left Wrist and Right Elbow.....at Release. There are the two words missing from 7-1....AT RELEASE.

DG

Extensor action alone would straighten it.

First place I'd look is plane. If you can't straighten the right arm down and OUT, you are probably over plane through impact.

Split grip drills, no ball, just in the air, below horizontal, but not lowered all the way to a full swing.

Focus on first - not letting the clubhead get 'inside' the hands until hip high, and second, swinging OUT - from about 7 to 2 on a clock as your right arm straightens to 2 o'clock.

If that doesn't help you get a good feel for how the right arm needs the 'room' to straighten, next look to your pivot. You may not be turning through very well.

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Right . . . right shoulder farther downplane . . . more right arm.

getting hotter...
 

Swing = Shoulder + Wrist throw , The shoulder throws both arms. Thus the elbow release by CF or CP. The muscle is "stretched"

Hit = Shoulder + forearm throw = 4 barrel Hit is available. Shoulder provide the platform to blast the right forearm. The tricep contracts. and there is relatively less stretch of the left side.

Ok... I think I am getting warmer !

A true CF Automatic Snap Release will use a Delivery Path Throw (10-20-D), which then produces a Wrist Throw.

The Shoulder Throw is produced by the “Instant Acceleration” of the HIP ACTION. This is a “sharp initial acceleration” against Acc#4. The THROW of the Left Arm only begins AFTER the “PIVOT acceleration subsides…” This Shoulder Throw (in combo) is great for Swingers and even Hitters that go 4barrel to set up the push of 10-20-B but not so good for 3barrel Hitters or right arm swingers.

Homer said that the Right Arm should work like a Piston and always be driven . . . what does Piston Mean????

nod nod!:)... yub yub

Watch these Right Arms . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy9GT...elated&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TbFr...elated&search=



Look how much Right Arm Boo has AFTER Impact . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MlhxXKTjMg

And our Very Own . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnsBPnW0RAc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXSw8...elated&search=

Amazing Camera Work
 

Nice post 12p....couldn't help noticing the difference between Bo's right foot and Kj's right foot thru impact...Bo's is firmly planted while Kj's is on the ball/toes of his right foot prior to and thru impact. That camera is amazing:)

Peter K does not like BG's leg action thru impact...I guess Peter is into the power game.

Hi Ed,

I am not quite picturing the drill that you describe. Is the club just below horizontal but not touching the ground when you do the drill?
Thanks,
Alex

Alex - as if you were trying to hit a ball on a 12" tee with a split grip (left hand in normal position, right just on the metal of the shaft.