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tball88 12-03-2007 02:20 PM

Need a drill...
 
Ok, I'm all of a sudden struggling with my driving. For some reason, I seem to be starting the "hit" a bit early, hanging back on the right side, which then leads to running out of right arm too early. I then flip the club or hit up at impact, leading typically to leakage hooks.


For a hitter, what would be a good fix for this, shifting a bit to the left to start the downswing maybe???


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

YodasLuke 12-03-2007 02:53 PM

sloooooooooowwwww Doooooooooooowwnnnnn
 
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Originally Posted by tball88 (Post 46777)
Ok, I'm all of a sudden struggling with my driving. For some reason, I seem to be starting the "hit" a bit early, hanging back on the right side, which then leads to running out of right arm too early. I then flip the club or hit up at impact, leading typically to leakage hooks.


For a hitter, what would be a good fix for this, shifting a bit to the left to start the downswing maybe???


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Try to hit the ball 150 yards with the driver to slow the Start Down. Then, progressively, try to make the club increase in speed, after Impact.

tball88 12-03-2007 03:20 PM

Thank you Ted. I can't believe I honestly have a problem getting quick:)

YodasLuke 12-03-2007 03:34 PM

join the crowd
 
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Originally Posted by tball88 (Post 46780)
Thank you Ted. I can't believe I honestly have a problem getting quick:)

You or the other 10,000,000,000,000,000 people....

BCGolf 12-03-2007 10:40 PM

Speed versus Length
 
Ted,

Are you suggesting the Slow Down in order to shorten the backswing? Is he overswinging and losing balance?

YodasLuke 12-03-2007 11:07 PM

execution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BCGolf (Post 46789)
Ted,

Are you suggesting the Slow Down in order to shorten the backswing? Is he overswinging and losing balance?

Mainly, it's improper Execution. He'll lose the heaviness, if it's quick and jerky.

tball88 12-04-2007 12:19 PM

Ted is absolutely correct. He's an awesome instructor and has made me a somewhat respectable golfer. For some reason, the longer the club the greater my tendency to get quick at the start. Ted in lessons has tried to ingrain in me that I need a slow start and should slowly increase my acceleration.

Two things happen when I get quick, the body gets out of sync as the lower body unwinds way too quickly for a hitter and secondly when I overaccelerate, I hang back, and run out of right arm. Complete disaster for a hitter.

YodasLuke 12-04-2007 09:47 PM

tricep power
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tball88 (Post 46807)
Ted is absolutely correct. He's an awesome instructor and has made me a somewhat respectable golfer. For some reason, the longer the club the greater my tendency to get quick at the start. Ted in lessons has tried to ingrain in me that I need a slow start and should slowly increase my acceleration.

Two things happen when I get quick, the body gets out of sync as the lower body unwinds way too quickly for a hitter and secondly when I overaccelerate, I hang back, and run out of right arm. Complete disaster for a hitter.

No need for Swinging when your upper arms are as big as my upper legs. Use those powerful triceps, instead of letting them get lost in bad Rhythm. You are blessed with a great combination of strength and fast twitch speed. Some are strong and slow, but you're strong and fast. It's that explosive power that gives you the distance that you have.

Yoda 12-04-2007 10:44 PM

Avoidance Behavior
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tball88 (Post 46807)

Two things happen when I get quick, the body gets out of sync as the lower body unwinds way too quickly for a hitter...

Do this drill:

Insert a dowel or reflective marker through your front two belt loops. Now, make a practice stroke. If you unwimd too fast, you'll know immediately because your hands will collide with the dowel.

Start with the short shots and work your way into full swings. Soon, you will have trained your hips not to race ahead of your arms, and your Pivot and Arm Swing will be coordinated. When you can hit full drivers without worrying about the dowel, you'll have licked the problem.

This coordination is something that most of the great players have had to learn at some point in their careers.

:)

plgolfer 12-05-2007 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 46817)
Do this drill:

Insert a dowel or reflective marker inside your front two belt loops.

:)

Can't understand what's a two belt loops. I have the same problem and would like to practice this drill.

Do you use the full length dowel?

neil 12-05-2007 08:10 AM

The front two loops in your trouser waistband where your belt goes!

tball88 12-05-2007 09:30 AM

Lynn/Ted, thank you for the tips, I'll definitely give both of them a shot. I know I've got good golf in me, just can't get the consistency down. 76 one day, 88 the next.

I can tell you that being too quick has been my problem for some time. I strike the ball well with the short irons, but can't seem to lose the "kill" instinct with the longer clubs.

I'm still searching for that elusive par round.

Yoda 12-05-2007 10:21 AM

More On the Hip/Arm Swing Drill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by plgolfer (Post 46820)

Can't understand what's a two belt loops. I have the same problem and would like to practice this drill.

Do you use the full length dowel?

Yes, use a full-length dowel, either 36" or 48". When you insert the dowel through your two front belt loops, it will pass over your belt buckle and be parallel to the ground.

Alternatively, you can use a short bungee cord to attach the dowel to the front of your body.

No matter how you secure the dowel, the drill has two benefits:

First, you have an unmistakeable 'visual' of your Hip Turn back and through.

Second, you must swing your arms in timing with this Turn, particularly on the Downstroke. If your Hip Turn is too fast (or too exaggerated) from the Top, the dowel will block the passage of the Hands when they reach waist high.

plgolfer 12-05-2007 11:39 AM

Thanks a lot Yoda:thumright

powerdraw 12-05-2007 01:46 PM

Yoda, i might be a little on the dumb side this mo, but would you drill be a good one for a swinger as well?

okie 12-05-2007 06:17 PM

Sheer genius! :salut: I love them sticks!:happy3:

Yoda 12-06-2007 12:51 AM

One Size Fits All
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by powerdraw (Post 46828)

Yoda...would you drill be a good one for a swinger as well?

Yes, Powerdraw. The Pivot Train sequence and Arm Swing are the same for both Hitters and Swingers.

tball88 12-06-2007 11:14 AM

Went and hit balls at the PGA superstore last night. The dowels' really helped getting my right shoulder down plane and as Ted says"put me a position to deliver the punch".

It also started ingraining that the key to getting the hands in front of the ball is to get the shoulder more downplane. I was hanging back but trying to drive the hands ahead of the ball.

Result for me was my last range session my ball was taking off at anywhere from 14 to 16 degrees. I was getting that down to 10-11 by getting the shoulder more downplane and not letting the hips fire off too quickly.

Lynn/Ted, as always great work!!

I've just got to keep grinding..


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