Hitting, hmmm...I think I like this
 

After knocking a bunch of "basic motion" shots into my net for a couple weeks,I had a chance to to horse around on the course yesterday(47 deg. in Indy)
Well after some ok swings I thought I would try my best interpretation of the TGM hitting prodedure. (I dont have the book, just based it on Ted, Lynn's, and 6BMike's post's)

wow, straight and compressed shots and good distance considering the sloppy track. I think I might concentrate more on a hitters pattern vs. swinging, but I did have a couple questions for you guys.

Tomasello said in his hitting vs swinging video that you wont get as much distance when you use the hitting procedure. Is this true? I mean Ted and Lynn both hit it a mile and are not huge guys by any means.

Tomasello also said that as you age, you wont be able to get it out there as far as someone who swings, and he uses Arnie (and maybe Lee Buck?) as examples. Thoughts?

Im assuming the lack of PGA "hittters" on tour is due to a shortage of teachers like Ted or Lynn who know how to teach hitting, or maybe because they grew up learning a CF swing. Its definately the most accurate way I have ever hit a golf ball.

Homer said if your strong hit and if your quick swing, Im about 5'11' 190 lbs. pretty stocky and played hockey for 20 years. I guess I could go either way. I appreciate any input on my questions, Thanks

hockey and Hitting
 

Some of my best Hitters were hockey players. You know how to use your right arm in a slapshot, and it translates well to golf. I'll bet you never tried to hit a puck into the nosebleed section of the arena. As a result, you understand trajectory control and won't look like a flipper.

Does anybody have a link or a scan of the old Golf Digest swing sequence of Brett Hull? They had two sequences - one with him swinging a golf club, and one with him in his Red Wings uniform performing a slapshot. It was a nice comparison of the two motions. It used to be on their website, but I don't see it anymore.

found the article in the Wayback Machine: http://web.archive.org/web/200407131...00202hull.html

Here are the two images:

Thanks Ben,thats pretty cool....I met his dad Bobby once, he was cool as can be. Gave me a stick.

Hi Ted, whats your opinion of Tommy T's "hitting" comments?

I will see how this hitting thing goes, I may want to come out and see you this spring. I have relatives in North Atlanta.

TT and Hitting
 

Based on the videos and the posts related to TT, I'm certain that Tommy didn't see the whole picture. I don't want to bash Tommy, because I think he had plenty to offer.

I've said this many times, but I've NEVER met anyone that had the insight into TGM that Lynn has. So, I have very high standards from which to judge someone's knowledge. It's like trying to compare someone to Tiger. It's not a fair comparison.

I hope you do get the opportunity to come to Atlanta. I'd be happy to see you.

Put the Puck in the Net
 

Hit the puck in the net has just become a serious contender for my swing thought for 2008.

hockey player
 

Soooo, you played hockey, ay?

(That's my best attempt at sounding Canadian.)

Had to - couldn't stand up on my skates without a stick.

Note the chicken wing left arm post impact, which is a classic symptom of steering and guard against making the same mistake.

Go Flames, Go! :hockey:

The Atlanta Flames Fan Club
 

How can one not appreciate the third frame with such a beautiful Turned Shoulder Plane? But, only a Hitter would appreciate the steepness.

I, too, pulled for the Flames when they were the Atlanta Flames (if we're talking about the same team). Calgary robbed Atlanta of ice hockey, until the Thrashers became the new Atlanta team. I was in attendance when Jim Craig made his professional debut, after winning gold against the Russians. He never made much of an impact as a professional. But, I still remember to this day the chills that ran up my back when he was announced. Everyone in the Omni raised an American Flag and yelled at the top of their lungs. It was the longest standing ovation in the history of Earth.

Sorry for your loss but my association with the Flames is purely Calgarian. My my sister lives there and I get to visit often; occasionally in the Hockey season.

Hey Burner,

Are you or your sister "seasoned" enough to remember the Calgary Cowboys of the WHA? Was it the Strampede that they played?

Ted, talk about being shafted, The Indy Racers got pulled by Skalbania, and he took The Great One w/ him to Edmonton. The rest as they say is history.... It was wild seeing Wayne play his first pro games in Indy when he was 17, the guy was simply amazing from the get go.

I understand what you're saying about TT. I had an AI tell me TT really wasnt using the hitting procedure as prescribed by Homer in his vids.

!975-1977.

Before my time and hers, I'm afraid. She had barely got to Calgary at that time and I did not get over their for a visit until 20 years later.

showing my age :crybaby:

Showing my lack of worldliness.

Didn't get on a plane till the ripe old age of 54 and didn't swing a golf club till 4 years later.

Making up for lost time now before it all runs out.:golf:

you're half way home
 

My pediatrician stopped practicing medicine at 100 years old, because of failing eyesight. She recently turned 109. I hope she passed along some wisdom to me.

Is this the one that took out the restraining order against you?

wuz a difernt girl
 

No, the three that took out restraining orders were big boy doctors. My pediatrician moved to a different county and left no forwarding address.

late bloomer here too, started golfing at 41, 4 years ago. Definately addicted and completely absorbed....

Quit practising at 100? :confused1

Did she never get it right? :doh:

trailblazer
 

I'm pretty sure she's 109, and her website has yet to be updated.

(But, from her website) She was instrumental in developing- through research and testing on patients- the pertussis vaccine (whooping cough) in the 1930’s, for which she received the prestigious Fisher Award in 1935.

She was the only woman in her medical class, as you can imagine in those days.

She's such an amazing story. Here's her website:
http://www.drdenmarksaidit.com/who_is_dr_denmark.html

Wow!

My puerile attempts at humour in ignorance of the facts beggars belief.

http://www.drdenmarksaidit.com/who_is_dr_denmark.html

I am humbled commensurate to my ignorance.

I think that Tomasello was right on the mark about the cons of hitting. I was a successful self-taught hitter way before I knew anything about TGM, and it is a needy procedure. I'm a bigger fan of right-sided swings (don't start!) It's taken about 10 years to get my hitter tendencies out of me, and I couldn't be happier!!! I think that hitting teaches impact better than anything.

Barrel E...raser?
 

You may have some barrels missing :( If you can hit using all 4 accumulators you will be OK. I have only figured out how to use 3 of the 4 available to me when hitting. One of the drawbacks to hitting is that you don't have Big Brother (CF) to bail you out! Still, a swinger though:golf:

I prefer 4 barrel swinging:naughty: over 4 barrel hitting.

Options are a great thing, and that is where the yellow book shines.:golf:

Achtung Four Verboten
 

Unless you are pulling my leg, I do not believe swingers have access to all four accumulators:naughty:

That is correct from a limited understanding.

Centrifugal Force is evident in a Thrust/Hitter as well as a CF/Swinger. The Thrust Hitter can increase the benefit of CF by focusing on the #4 Accumulator.

Therefore: In Homer Kelleys version of the Universe of Golf Stroke Engineering, if it all comes down to how many and which of the Barrels you can learn to use, then a 4 barrel Hitter is the same Engineering as a 4 Barrel Swinger.

At 4 Barrels Mastery, the Hitter and Swinger are one in the same Being. Universal understanding is yours, the Ying and Yang have fused into a supreme being, no more conflict. In other words: YOU ARE THE MAN.

Would you like to see 4 barrels? Watch Yodasluke. He is Swinging with #1 Accumulator Thrust because he utilizes CF to Stiffen the Primary Lever brought about by skillful use of the #4 Accumulator. He's the Man. He has a hernia, but he's still, the man. We abuse him sometimes because he also has a great sense of humor.

Limited Understander
 

What is a switter, then?:eyes:

A PGA tour player.

classic Bucket
 

This could be the shortest "Hall of Fame Post", EVER!

Homer audio
 

Options are great. And, if anyone in the world wanted to keep the options open, it was Homer.

But, these are quotes from Homer on 4 Barrel Swinging:

"No point in 4 barrel Swinging"

"No real advantage"

"If you try to exceed momentum transfer, it will resist."

Ah
 

So, although possible...not advantageous? I must have been in the paper supply store room for a routine siesta when that memo was circulated. I thought muscular thrust arm wrestles senor cf into submission.

Furthermore, and this may be enlightening, is that Yodasluke is technically a 4 barrel SWINGER. :crybaby:

the snake
 

You speak with forked tongue, kemo sabe. &C :violent:

Note to self: remove Daryl from will.

Dear Mr. Four Barrel Swinger,

no really. Right arm Thrust "Inhibits" the "Take Over" of Centrifugal Force but does not eliminate CF. It's in the "Cliff Notes". :)

Lemming looking for a ledge!
 

Yeah...going OVER the cliff...notes! Sorry, I could not help myself! Seriously though for me thinking is merely rearranging predjudiced presuppositions, so this four barrell swinging heresy is freaking me out! So is muscular thrust for the hitter the motor cycle, or the sidecar? When I hit I actually trash talk CF sayings things like "Not in my house, beeaa...!":naughty: So to suggest he (CF) is still lurking would suggest that I cannot force invisible forces into submission "Oh the gravity!" :sad2:

merry go round
 

The Swinger, Daryl, is the cadaver that falls off the merry-go-round. :twisted:

The Hitter, Ted, uses muscular force to blast off the merry-go-round. :headbang: :laughing9

cadaver > noun: Medicine or literary, a corpse. - origin: Latin, from cadere 'to fall'

cado ex venia > fall from grace, as in Daryl’s fall from Ted’s grace :angel1:

Honorable Right Arm Thruster,

A fall from Grace and is not a crash. Perhaps, a mere stumble?

SWINGERS MOTTO: Push yourself, not the club.

little g
 

Surely, just a stumble. :)

God's Grace is "Grace". Ted's grace is "grace".