TGM scandal
 

The Cesar has now denounced basic and acquired motion as being junk and flipping is acceptable. How much more is tgm headquarters willing to take?
This is becoming a scandal and putting a slight on tgm community

If you are talking about who I think you are I've ignored him a long time ago. His actions are irrelevant, I offer you the same life.

No leadership there . . . . The Machine has a life of its own . . . it lives and breaths . . . it don't need no gas to run . . . . the book is sooooo much bigger than the home office . . . . read the book . . . . let it be your filter . . .

If somebody that is authorized says that something in the book is garbage . . . . who cares. Frankly some of the stuff in the earlier editions to me is better than what evolved. But hey . . . it's your golf game or your student. You have to put the components together and match them appropriately. If some schmuck wants to take a squirt on the book or what some other instructor is teaching . . . . let him throw down the turd . . . . he'll do a swan dive into it wittingly or unwittingly eventually.

Same ole playbook . . .

In the book's foreward, Homer indicates its intention is to be a toolbox for the golf professional. What each professional, authorized or not, does with the book seems to be his or her own business. I see nothing in the book that says it should never be challenged, or that new ideas should not be tested. Either it works or it does not.

Hitting a Homer
 

The Geometry of a Circle and the Physics of Rotation. Don't think those things are going to change.

He needs attention- starve him of that and move along. Manzy never like basic or acquired motion- wasn't sexy enough for him or his students.
He is week old fish left in the sun.

Flipping is Never Acceptable
 

I am not sure of whom you speak, but they are mistaken. It is possible to hit good golf shots by flipping just as it is possible to hit good golf shots swinging a frying pan behind your back. It is, however, not the most controllable and repeatable way to do it (although I hear Bucket swings a mean chicken frying pan :laughing1 ). Lower scores come about from control and repeatability which are a consequence of precision geometrical alignments throughout the stroke. It takes time and practice to learn, but it is an easy concept to understand.

Cesar ?
 

Isn't that some sort of kibbles n bits for little pooches ?

Anyhoo, how does Cesar, dog food maker or otherwise justify when its OK to flip ?

Say it is not so!
 

OMG (with mock valley girl tone) ...chip shots have been denounced!

the fall of Rome
 

I thought Caesar died a long time ago.

Elvis is dead, too, if no one knew.

The Toolbox
 

Agreed, dodger, with certain reservations (and observations) which I will offer in a later post.

For now, I like your diirection. Let's take the thread there and move away from any 'instructor specific' comment. Otherwise, per our Posting Rules, we will have to close this thread.

:salut:

Fair enough Boss but how can these motions be considered junk when they help alignments and give compression
I can understand the point of D plane and some flip going on ( as long as player controls them ) working but surely the pressure they exert on the ball is ordinary
Even if it takes a year to be able to take the motion into a full swing the player will be better off cause they won't need a different band-aid every time

Opinions Not Wanted
 

Pistol,

I'm at dinner now, but just know that Sketch 1-L (and its 21 points) is the answer. Short Shots or Long, for any given Line of Compression (2-C-0), there must be a common Geometry (1-L #20). The only variant is Power (2-M-2).

Homer Kelley invited all comers who would challenge his work. He asked only one thing, the same thing he asked of himself:

"Prove it."

-- Homer Kelley

:salut:

Ok guys so here is an outsiders take on the situation.

We dont care what some governed body says when it relates to the yellow book. Sorry to be so blunt it just sounds like a stupid situation. Let me ask this, did they ask any of you "guys doing the work" about it?

To me it sounds really like I have to do basic motion standing up on a pogo stick. Is that next?

No he's not
 

FYI - I saw Elvis this morning at a 7-11 in Cedar Park, Texas. Alive and well!

was he practicing basic motion or was he flipping?

:laughing1

Must have been hula hula ?

Sorry, Elvis
 

He looked a bit blue from all the suede-ing and bobbing he was doing...he was practically coming out of his shoes! :golf:

thank ya
 

:laughing9 :laughing9 :laughing9
Now, that's funny.

Thank-ya-very-much...

"Confessions of Current Flipper..."

Basically yes he is stating that he was so close 20 years ago and the whole tgm is junk
Latest casualty is any central based pivot is not worth a lick. Bad news for a lot of tour players they may as well hand their cards back right now

Joe Btfsplk
 

. . . is alive and well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Btfsplk

:)

Don't waste your time
 

Pistol,

You are expending a whole lot of energy on this "other instructor". Pick one guy/gal instructor and focus your energy in one place.

Everything works out in the end - just give it time.

Life is too short, man. Politics and golf don't mix.

Movin' On
 

Right you are, wolfman.

We're done here.

:golf: