Hitting and clubface control
 

I'm so right handed by now that I have a hard time letting the the left hand be in charge of the clubface control.

I'll trace the planeline in 1 or 2 practice swings, to get a feel for the plane and the angle of attack (AoA). Then I'll let pp#1 thrust into the inside aft of the ball on that AoA, feeling lagpressure in pp#3, and that pressure is directed passively to the same inside aft point on the ball.

Left hand is very passive, only thing it does is "nothing" in the no roll feel of the angled hinging. But is it all it should do?

Does any of you have a more "active" clubface control than just the hinge action, ie are you pushing the left hand with a feel of the flat left wrist being the clubface??

control
 

Thom,the only thing that I do with the left hand is to manually activate Acc#2,a "little",More a feeling of just assisting the frozen R/wrist to stay frozent impact and keep it there to both arms straight then I roll.This is just my sensation ,Im not saying Im right,its just what I feel. cheers

I would think that would give you horizontal hinging, and be in the switting area...or do I misunderstand something here??

Anyone else on hitting and clubface control??

not switting
 

Not to me ,as the R/forearm travels down and out it will fully uncock L/wrist when both arms straight,I simply sqeeze last 3 fingers and thumb to ensure theres no breakdown

Yes I feel very much like you describe when hitting. Angled hinging being a no roll feel.

I dont personally feel the flat left wrist but rather the frozen, bent right wrist as being driven into the ball. I also feel the right forearm flying wedge as being held intact throughout the swing. Its all very right sided to me and the bent right wrist seems key.

The only time I feel the left wrist is in the finish swivel (clubshaft control) when the left wrist actively rolls the club shaft back onto the inclined plane. But here too I FEEL the right wrist as trying to keep its bend. The forces may in fact straighten it out for a bit ,but the perception of the two wrists as having different jobs has helped me a lot. Previously I think I actively rolled both wrists. An over swivel.


This is where I am at now anyways.

OB

OB Left
 

OB Left, thanks for your comment, and your username is my problem too, on bad days.

I see the problem could be caused by a couple of things:

-Thrusting too much towards target, over the top move, bend planeline.

-Running out of right arm, caused by thrusting too early, causing clubhead throw away, causing the left wrist to bend.

-Faulty hinge action, often caused by turning the left wrist too much in the backswing, causing more of a horisontal hinge action and closing the clubface too much through impact.

-Swiveling too early.



I've been to the range twice this week. First time I really found my swing/hit. All clubs was just point and shoot, from partial wedges to bombing the driver down the middle:golf: Yesterday, there was a quite strong headwind, and I was apple to pullhook my 9 iron 30-50 yards left of target every time:BangHead:

I've started writing down a checklist of things to remember before starting to hit shots, but of cause I didn't read it before starting yesterday:( , but the sensation of not turning the left wrist too much in the backswing is something I need to repeat 50 times to myself before starting from now on.



Ted - would you care to comment on this subject? Please!

Extensor action, the frozen right wrist, impact hands, no startup swivel helps me out with club face control. Axis tilt promoting the on plane move of the right shoulder has helped me out tremendously with the bent plane line.

I do two start down waggles for every pull on the range. Works every time. No more round housing, no more early extension of the right arm either.

The right shoulder takes the bent right arm into release! Sequencing. I love it, love it.

Thanks to Ted and Lynn

OB

Fish and Swimming Lessons
 

The fire is in your own application, O.B.

You make any teacher look good!

:salut:

Meanwhile, the LBG Private Academy / Toronto / May 25-27 is fully booked. See you then!

Thanks Lynn, this old fish is hoping to dine on some big fish during tournament season this summer. TBD.

OB

"Sole" Brother
 

Does "The Judge" qualify as a big fish ?

Although the Judge is a very big fish, I find him to be even older and more chewy than I am. He demands strokes of an order I cant even count to.

Im hoping for new, fresh young college fish. The white belted long baller, the fancy shoed striper etc. Now they are good eaters.

This may jinx my season so Id better stop. A fancy shoed, white belter had me for lunch or should I say by lunch in the Ontario Match Play. That was lunch on the first day too. Time for mid ams and soon seniors golf. Seven woods on par threes. Grab bars in the shower. That rubber thing on the end of my putter grip to pick up the ball.

Also feeling PP2 to get a feel for the left arm FW
 

Hi Thom,

I too, feel exactly like that: Extensor action, frozen right wrist, no roll feel, PP1 thrust, crossline delivery line.
But instead of focusing on keeping the right forearn flying wedge intact, I focus on keeping the primary lever assembly intact.
That must end up with the same result (isn't TGM cool!).

This helps me to ensure that I use the full leverage of the primary lever assembly and most importantly to avoid breaking it by a too fast start-down ending up with no right arm, clubhead throwaway and a destroyed primary lever assembly.

I know it's done properly by sensing PP2 during the entire stroke (starting from backstroke to both arms straight).
But I do not feel I use PP2 to drag the club (that would be switting!). I feel PP2 as a result of the right arm action...:eyes:

It's my insurance for leverage, slow startdown and lag.

Nice one Yodeli

Im wondering if there is such a thing as switting though? Ive seen some pretty good hitters with swinging components, drag loading start down etc.

Maybe this is best left for the people have already mastered hitting and swinging as described in chapter 12 however.

Regards
OB

pp2
 

Thanks Yodeli

It sounds a bit like what Brownman was mentioning ealy in this thread: "to manually activate Acc#2,a "little",More a feeling of just assisting the frozen R/wrist to stay frozent impact and keep it there to both arms straight"

I'll certainly try it out next time on the range, it kind of makes sense.

Today was another good one hitting balls.
I was hitting balls beside my friend who was having a lesson with his coach. What alot of rubbish that guy sprayed, I literally didn't understand half of what he was explaining. Thanks to TGM we have a language so much more precise.
The coach asked if I wanted him:confused1 to take a look at me, I just said "no thanks":nono:

You are right Thom, I FEEL it's pretty much the same.
I discovered that I was hitting it more consistently if I have this little sense of PP2. Not much is needed: it is only used to monitor the primary lever assembly as behaving like the axe handle it should be while hitting.

4 barrel... oh no, again!
 

Well, here we go again: I see only one viable way to mix components: the mighty 4 barrel stroke :pray:!!!
As you said: "pretty good hitters with swinging components, drag loading start down"

For instance, Ted admited that he was using a swinger's pivot to initiate the downswing, then drive the right arm to kill the ball :shock: