Tomesello Take-away's
 

We have a few video chapters yet to post, but I thought I would start this thread early. I learned a few things from Tom that I've known in concept, but not in demonstration. The takeaways for me were:

1.) The flat left wrist/bent right wrist relationship (Lag) is maintained through impact by keeping the hips moving into the finish. I see a lot of people quitting rotation early and dumping lag as a result. Ben Doyle is also very big on this concept. I had a lesson from him early last year and he kept grabbing my belt loop and snapping my hips through impact.

2.) Pulling the arrow from the quiver demo. (A swingers start down move per 10-19-C)

What are your take-aways?

Bagger

I haven't been fortunate enough to take a lesson form an AI, so for me, it's been a combination of validation on things I *thought* I understood and was doing correctly plus some new items. The main ones are:

1) Takeaway to the top. Tom's examples here helped a ton...I feel like I"m getting in a more correct position at the top of my backswing and am now making consistently solid contact.

2) The transition sequencing and the importance of keeping the hips moving...still working on this one, as I tend to slide toward the ball w/ my hips and stand up a bit.

I'm kind of a visual person, so now that I could see, in small segmented motions, what I'm supposed to do on a few key things like those, I feel like I'm finally able to apply some of the other great TGM info I've been studying from the book and forums like this!

bagger,

i was thinking the exact same thing regarding point #1....keep those hips a movin'.....

I have always fought
 

the hips stopping near impact and thus the flip.

Bagger
Which section is the arrow from the quiver example?
Thanks

Do you think this is why Hogan felt like his left hip spun around quickly, to prevent quitting/slicing?

I think
 

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POWER. :)

Quivering
 

Chapter 5 - POWER.

Bagger

"Good Golf is Power Golf" - Homer

1. Keep rotating the hips to prevent throwaway. His demonstration, which freaked out so many people, that one shouldn't be able to flatten the right wrist intentionally as long as the hips keep rotating ahead of the hands, hammers the importance of continual hip rotation.

2. Importance of the location of the right elbow near the body before the throwout action.

3. Importance of extensor action on the downswing. Still haven't fully satisfactorily experienced it yet, however,I am starting to feel twinges of it by incorporating 1. and 2. above.

TT's method looks like an excellent way to train the downswing, even if one is not using a right arm swing.

I can't wait for the upcoming clips showing the whole swing incorporating the pivot , arms and hands working together.

Quitting has always been my big bugaboo. The hip turn segment has been a real fog lifter for me. Went out to the range yesterday (first time I've actually hit a golf ball in over 2 months), and worked specifically on this. Definitely produced extra distance when I kept those hips turning.

Also worked on hitting with my irons (I now hit irons and swing woods). It's amazing how effortless this is becoming, yet producing greater distance and a sweet straight, boring trajectory.

With results this good after such a long layoff, I can't wait until I actually take lessons with an AI.

What I got from the Tomasello tapes and my time with Martin Green is that as long as the pivot keeps transporting the power package, there will be no throwaway. If your hands are moving forward faster than the right wrist is flattening, you will have good impact alignments.

Martin Green is also of the opinion that lag and a bent right wrist is an illusiion. He says that pushing on the clubhead increases it's 'weight' and this increased weight causes the shaft to lag back as well as the wrists. What truth there is to this, I don't know, but that is what he says.

Homer Kelley's Discovery
 

Absolutely right, Bob. When you think "Down Plane...Down Plane to Full Extension," remember that the Inclined Plane is inclined, and hence the Outward Dimension must be there.

When Homer Kelley first picked up Ben Hogan's book, Power Golf, he read that you should "Hit down." And so he did, routinely taking deep, 'pork-chop'-like Divots. It was only later that he discovered that you must hit Out as well as Down.

He did not want his readers to make this same mistake, so he included the following as 1-L-#14:

"Divots are taken 'Down-and-Out' -- not just 'Down.'"

back to take-away thread start
 

In tomasello series Tom T describes the bending of the right wrist and in another the clearing of of the trail hip.....

If i can get those 2 coordinated i hit the little bugger a ton, but if hip clears late, i pull theball and or hook it, not hitting if the aft quadrant....

ive tried to pre-set cleared hip, but lost all power etc

any thoughts/help appreciated
thanks