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Daryl 12-24-2010 12:43 PM

Change your Thinking
 
A lot of good can come from thinking of the Club as Part of the Right Forearm Flying Wedge. It's the part that strikes the Ball. But when Pulling or Pushing, think that you're pulling or pushing the entire Wedge Structure, not simply the Club.

KevCarter 12-24-2010 01:18 PM

I love it! First, be meticulous in getting the Right Forearm Flying Wedge alignments set up properly at address...

Kevin

JerryG 12-24-2010 01:39 PM

Another hunk of help. Thanks Daryl. That's a great perspective for me.

Yoda 12-24-2010 01:42 PM

Homer's Gift -- The Flying Wedges
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 80307)

A lot of good can come from thinking of the Club as Part of the Right Forearm Flying Wedge. It's the part that strikes the Ball. But when Pulling or Pushing, think that you're pulling or pushing the entire Wedge Structure, not simply the Club.

Daryl is right on, here. The Flying Wedges rule!

Homer Kelley identified them in the first edition of The Golfing Machine, but as he later said, "I didn't know what I had". Over time, he came to understand their true importance, and he used later editions to define their respective alignments. Also, their relationships with the other Stroke Components and, indeed, the essential Geometry of the Stroke itself.

Specifically to Daryl's point, Mr. Kelley emphasized maintaining the entire structure of each of the Wedges -- Left Arm and Right Forearm -- throughout the Stroke and especially during the Impact Interval:
Left Arm Flying Wedge

" . . . and remember to take the whole Primary Lever Assembly -- the Left Arm, the Hands, Clubshaft and Clubhead -- into Impact. It is the Hands AND Clubhead -- not just the Clubhead -- that define the Plane." [The Flat Left Wrist / 4-D-1]
Right Forearm Flying Wedge

" . . . it is absolutely MANDATORY that, Hitting or Swinging, it is the Right Forearm -- not just the Right Hand and/or Clubshaft -- that must be thrown, or driven, into Impact. " [The Major Basic Stroke / 7-3]
Thanks for this reminder, Daryl. For the dedicated golfer seeking his most effective, efficient Stroke, nothing is more important.

:salut:

dodger 12-24-2010 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 80312)
Daryl is right on, here. The Flying Wedges rule!

Homer Kelley identified them in the first edition of The Golfing Machine, but as he later said, "I didn't know what I had". Over time, he came to understand their true importance, and he used later editions to define their respective alignments. Also, their relationships with the other Stroke Components and, indeed, the essential Geometry of the Stroke itself.

Specifically to Daryl's point, Mr. Kelley emphasized maintaining the entire structure of each of the Wedges -- Left Arm and Right Forearm -- throughout the Stroke and especially during the Impact Interval:
Left Arm Flying Wedge

" . . . and remember to take the whole Primary Lever Assembly -- the Left Arm, the Hands, Clubshaft and Clubhead -- into Impact. It is the Hands AND Clubhead -- not just the Clubhead -- that define the Plane." [The Flat Left Wrist / 4-D-1]
Right Forearm Flying Wedge

" . . . it is absolutely MANDATORY that, Hitting or Swinging, it is the Right Forearm -- not just the Right Hand and/or Clubshaft -- that must be thrown, or driven, into Impact. " [The Major Basic Stroke / 7-3]
Thanks for this reminder, Daryl. For the dedicated golfer seeking his most effective, efficient Stroke, nothing is more important.

:salut:

If a golfer were to look at this post and work on nothing else he or she would break 80 easily. 7-3 alone could form the basis of an exceptionally sound stroke. Add 4-D-1 and its all there. Nice xmas present Daryl and Yoda, thanks.

12 piece bucket 12-24-2010 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 80307)
A lot of good can come from thinking of the Club as Part of the Right Forearm Flying Wedge. It's the part that strikes the Ball. But when Pulling or Pushing, think that you're pulling or pushing the entire Wedge Structure, not simply the Club.

One of the most important concepts in the entire Golfing Machine . . . when things get whacky I always come back to "wedge around the corner" . . .

Good post . . . critical.

Daryl 12-25-2010 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 80347)
One of the most important concepts in the entire Golfing Machine . . . when things get whacky I always come back to "wedge around the corner" . . .

Good post . . . critical.

Wedge Around the Corner. That's exactly how I think of it. Hmm? Who are you and what have you done with Bucket?

david sandridge 12-25-2010 02:03 PM

"wedge around the corner" bucket can you elaborate on that What corner?

12 piece bucket 12-26-2010 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by david sandridge (Post 80372)
"wedge around the corner" bucket can you elaborate on that What corner?

Tendency to swing under plane and out to right . . . right forearm flying wedge down out and forward then back up and in . . . with back up an in being . . . the CO'ner.

Daryl 12-26-2010 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 80410)
Tendency to swing under plane and out to right . . . right forearm flying wedge down out and forward then back up and in . . . with back up an in being . . . the CO'ner.

Oh, that's not what I imagined. When I think "Wedge around the Corner", I visualize the Right Forearm rotating around the Hub of the Pulley.

12 piece bucket 12-26-2010 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryl (Post 80414)
Oh, that's not what I imagined. When I think "Wedge around the Corner", I visualize the Right Forearm rotating around the Hub of the Pulley.

this here's what I want . . . . my club wants to work waaaaay out and over plane past the ball . . . no good less you wanna play army golf . .


O.B.Left 12-27-2010 01:38 AM

I dont know about those diagonal lines , shouldnt they be curved like the actual clubhead orbit? Maybe Im missing something again.

12 piece bucket 12-27-2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 80433)
I dont know about those diagonal lines , shouldnt they be curved like the actual clubhead orbit? Maybe Im missing something again.

Couldn't tell you . . . . I just boosted the pic . . . have no idea what the lines mean? Some other cat drew lines . . . I just love the pic.

JerryG 12-27-2010 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 80446)
Couldn't tell you . . . . I just boosted the pic . . . have no idea what the lines mean? Some other cat drew lines . . . I just love the pic.

I'm off to the dungeon for basic motion with some "around the corner."

drewitgolf 12-27-2010 08:09 PM

Skating with the Wee Ice Mon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 80446)
I just love the pic.

Hogan would swing a weighted club that was heavy in the grip end not the Clubhead. Which end of the club does he loook like he is moving? The one where he feels pressure. In Hogan's case, the Clubhead does not outrace the Pivot. If the Arms, specifically the Right Arm, begins to push, it moves the club away from the Pivot. So there is a resistance in the Right Arm to remain bent, to keep the Right Forearm Flying Wedge intact and to give geometry the nod over physics.

Yoda 12-27-2010 09:15 PM

Heavy-Handed Hogan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drewitgolf (Post 80477)

Hogan would swing a weighted club that was heavy in the grip end not the Clubhead.

Wow, Drew.

Never heard this!

:notworthy

Any additional info?

BerntR 12-28-2010 04:47 AM

I read somewhere sometime that Jack Nicklause fine tuned his driver (or all his clubs?) by adding weight to the grip side of the club.

drewitgolf 12-28-2010 10:40 AM

Coming to Grips
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 80483)
Wow, Drew.

Never heard this!

:notworthy

Any additional info?

I will have to look in my Hogan achieves for additional information.


BerntR is correct in his Nicklaus observation, but it was short-lived during the early 1980's. For whatever reason, Nicklaus for a brief time used a grip that was weighted in the grip end.

12 piece bucket 12-28-2010 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by drewitgolf (Post 80511)
I will have to look in my Hogan achieves for additional information.


BerntR is correct in his Nicklaus observation, but it was short-lived during the early 1980's. For whatever reason, Nicklaus for a brief time used a grip that was weighted in the grip end.

I read that too . . . . there is a company that you can buy "back weighting" for the grip cap of the club. I know ECox did it . . . said it made a big difference. I'll see if I can find the company. Their big push was putters but you could buy the thing for irons. I think Nicklaus put a dowel in the shaft and then filled it with lead shot or something.

joe curtis 12-28-2010 04:03 PM

OB LEFT, if you drew dots on his hands they would make a circle. the lines shown do show the hands going left.

JERRY G.if you actively uncock and roll, i would not suggest you try turning the corner.

JerryG 12-28-2010 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by joe curtis (Post 80529)
OB LEFT, if you drew dots on his hands they would make a circle. the lines shown do show the hands going left.

JERRY G.if you actively uncock and roll, i would not suggest you try turning the corner.

Thanks Joe. Heck, I try everything looking for feels. I'll have to get under the watchful eye of Mr. Carter soon to check on the uncocking and rolling. I do make an effort at maintaining both flying wedges Down through the ball while turning on the left side. I did feel yesterday the 'round the corner may have been an exaggerated horizontal hinge which may end up in a pull hook. Hard to tell in basic and acquired motion into a tarp about 4 ft. in front of me.


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