Which first?
 

Which is first to learn, "swing" or "hit"? Why?

Whichever suits you best based on your natural tendencies.
I would say that most people have a bit of both and either need to add some element or eliminate something to achieve a true hit or swing .So whichever feels easiest to the individual -you don't need to learn both.

When my guys and gals work on the Basic Motion Curriculum, I ask them to do both hitting and swinging. Then I ask them to choose the one they liked the most. Some hit some swing. It gets funny though when moving into acquired motion. Some change right off the bat. Got any thoughts on that one?

I think that the simple basic motion shot is easier to perform as a hit. You can get a really crisp strike and compression with accumulator 1 acting as it does in acquired and total motion hitting.

The swing in basic motion is a bit different IMO- it requires the left arm pull ( minor basic stroke) which differs from acquired motion swinging where you have enough accumlator 2 and 3 to uncock on plane and feel a swing that feels like a total motion swing. The recent changes i have played around with include really uncocking on plane ... i think this is the key to swinging... seeing Yoda videos on that ...great.

I'd say most have a "natural" preference . . . I've seen dudes that just can't make their elbow go to Pitch Basic . . . so maybe they should Hit right from the jump.

If the person is a definite Swinger, once they get Swinging down to an acceptable level, they should learn Hitting? Why because learning to Hit solidifies the understanding, maintenace and dependence on Alignments. Mr. Kelley said that the Swinger that learns to Hit will be that much better of a Swinger by learning to Hit.

Interesting Bucket, did he say why?

Certainly a question loaded for opinion.

For the masses I'd say definitely swinging first. There is more that YOU are in charge of executing when hitting - YOU must do all manually. This dictates more time to learn and apply - no centrifugal force to help you out.

And Yoda said Kelley said you could sleep and swing.

If you have the time and desire, I can't see where it would make a difference.

Bagger?
 

Bagger,
Since He's at 2156 posts I'm just curious when the "Senior Member" label converts to "Psycho Member"? I mean - he is already there- don't you think you should give him credit where credit has been earned?

Some students naturally roll the hands and others simply do not feel that-ever. I think if a student has no natural turn/roll in their Hands- show them to push the whole club.

The biggest difference is in how the hands work in the stroke. Does the student use his left arm/pivot to pull the outsdie of the 'wheel' (Standard Left Wrist Action) or does the student his his right arm to push on a spoke of the wheel (single Left Hand action)?

Build a motion around the Left Wrist Action and you have a decent beginning to a G.O.L.F. Stroke.

There is a "I Have No Life" usergroup we can put him in. But he has this "secret life" he thinks we don't know about. The photos have been circulating on the internet for a few months now.