[Martee]

Mike0 wrote....For those that are interested or trying to "get there"- a couple of thoughts:
1) Nothing in the Golfing Machine describes anything actually turning a 1/4 of a turn
2) If there is somewhere in the book where he describes "the left wrist facing the plane"- then can someone find it in the book, post it, and let's discuss it.
By the way, I think both of the above have the same thing in common- those searching for simplicity- and something specific, in the wrong place at the wrong time. Or stated differently, trying to make a principle where one doesn't exist.

Can't speak to the 1/4 turn, heard it, but don't know where it comes from...

As for the left wrist facing the plane (hopefully we are talking about the same thing) I submit 10-18 (swinging 10-18-A, hitting 10-18-C-2) as to the turn/roll that I was referring too in the backstroke.

What do ya think?