[6bmike]

asleep- depending on the grip. I like to feel #3pp on the fat fleshy pad just below your number '3'. Sometimes I feel #3pp at your number 2 if I got myself a good Ben Doyle Trigger finger. What is important is that #3 is located behind the shaft at address where the right index finger touches the lowest point down the shaft. Let the grip fix its location, IMHO. And leave it there. No loose grips.