LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - A Ben Doyle Lesson -- Part III / Ball-Turf...Please Thread: A Ben Doyle Lesson -- Part III / Ball-Turf...Please View Single Post #65 07-13-2005, 10:45 PM Bagger Lance Administrator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,326 Re: I worked on this today Originally Posted by wanole I hit quite a few shanks with pitches and half shots. Everytime I try to lead with my hips and hold the release the shanks apear. Other shots fade when I hit them. I don't expect results right away, but the shanks scare the ou know what out of me and make me feel I am going about this. As for aiming point. I always thought it was out in front of the ball, but I then see Doyle putting the aiming point out in front of the left foot. Is this right? Wanole, Welcome to the one of the toughest swinging procedures to master but probably the purest. I think Brian mentioned that Ben prefers to teach championship level swinging procedure. I'm paraphrasing but it's close. "If" you stay with it, you will begin to see why the students in nearly every Doyle video struggle with the issues you mentioned above. It ain't easy! But there is always time...and dirt... In terms of aiming point, it varies from club to club. Assuming the student had a wedge in his hand, and Ben had his left foot one inch in front of the ball then yes, the hands would be over the left foot at impact. Bagger Bagger Lance View Public Profile Send a private message to Bagger Lance Find all posts by Bagger Lance