How Do I Start the Club Back?

[innercityteacher]

Or if you are horiz. hinging, does the RFT seem to move more around and to the shirt seam ?


Jerry, my friend, you can have an epiphany, but you may not use the word "epiphanous" since it is not a real word.

Patrick

Tracing the plane line with the right index finger using the RFT.

[Weetbix]

I am currently working on maintaining EA while tracing the plane line. There are two approaches I've used. Firstly focusing on the right forearm initiating the backswing. Secondly having both hands moving together to trace the plane line with my right index finger.

From reading this thread I am wondering with a RFT whether I should I start by clearing the right hip? I haven't been doing that consciously, just letting my body do what it wants to make way for the forearm to trace the plan back and then through.

I have been working with the both hands option as an alternative to the RFT because I find myself with an RFT having different amounts of left forearm rotation on the backswing and so I get inconsistency of face alignment at contact. I often get an open clubface at impact with RFT and not so much with taking both hands back together. When I take both hands back together - still tracing the plane line with my right forefinger - I get more consistency with squaring my clubface.

For me tracing the plane line is simply what was stated by someone earlier - pointing my finger at the plane line and then moving my hands back and then forward still pointing at that line, which is usually the target line. In a swing because the right forefinger is bent that means my first finger joint is doing the pointing because my finger is curled around the grip.

This is something I have only been working on for a week or so but I am finding that if I maintain EA while tracing the plane then I really don't think about anything else in the golf swing. Like some others have said I feel that I actually have a lot of EA, not the "straightening the cuff" level of push, quite a bit more than that. And so my swing feels a little stiff. But it isn't and I am getting very good power and so far good chipping and pitching results. Only had one session at the range full swing working on this, so still got to see how it goes. Promising start but the reality was that most of the shots I lost EA and my mind jumped out of my hands. So work in progress, but very positive short game results.

[KevCarter]

I am currently working on maintaining EA while tracing the plane line. There are two approaches I've used. Firstly focusing on the right forearm initiating the backswing. Secondly having both hands moving together to trace the plane line with my right index finger.

From reading this thread I am wondering with a RFT whether I should I start by clearing the right hip? I haven't been doing that consciously, just letting my body do what it wants to make way for the forearm to trace the plan back and then through.

I have been working with the both hands option as an alternative to the RFT because I find myself with an RFT having different amounts of left forearm rotation on the backswing and so I get inconsistency of face alignment at contact. I often get an open clubface at impact with RFT and not so much with taking both hands back together. When I take both hands back together - still tracing the plane line with my right forefinger - I get more consistency with squaring my clubface.

For me tracing the plane line is simply what was stated by someone earlier - pointing my finger at the plane line and then moving my hands back and then forward still pointing at that line, which is usually the target line. In a swing because the right forefinger is bent that means my first finger joint is doing the pointing because my finger is curled around the grip.

This is something I have only been working on for a week or so but I am finding that if I maintain EA while tracing the plane then I really don't think about anything else in the golf swing. Like some others have said I feel that I actually have a lot of EA, not the "straightening the cuff" level of push, quite a bit more than that. And so my swing feels a little stiff. But it isn't and I am getting very good power and so far good chipping and pitching results. Only had one session at the range full swing working on this, so still got to see how it goes. Promising start but the reality was that most of the shots I lost EA and my mind jumped out of my hands. So work in progress, but very positive short game results.

Very interesting post Weetbix! Where are you feeling the pressure of EA, PP #1?

I will be very interested in hearing updates as you go.

When you look at:

12-3-0 MECHANICAL CHECKLIST FOR ALL STROKES

Extensor action is mentioned at 9 of the 12 sections of the golf stroke, yet no one outside of those who understand the work of Homer Kelley teach it.

Good stuff Weetbix!

Kevin

[Seanmx]

Your thoughts count!

Get “rope swinging” feeling at address with waggle. Be conscious of PP#2.

Nice gentle extensor action in backswing to prevent overswinging combined with nice full shoulder turn. This action should get a nice left wrist cock.

[GPStyles]

How do I start the club back?

I set up (in impact fix) and then take my bent right wrist to the top with extensor action.

If I do this correctly everything else should fall into place.

[KevCarter]

How do I start the club back?

I set up (in impact fix) and then take my bent right wrist to the top with extensor action.

If I do this correctly everything else should fall into place.

Can it get any simpler than that!?!?!?!? Very nice GPStyles... I can't wait for the snow to melt to try something just that easy.

Thanks,
Kevin

[GPStyles]

I have a feeling that there is a big green grin on someone's face.

Kev, I can't remember if it was in Alignment Golf or if it was somewhere else on this wonderful site that 'ol Yoda, said exactly what I posted.

I responded in the same way you did!

Great threads Yoda, the assisted struggle for the 21st Century!

[okie]

with my right forearm...its own angle of approach burned into my brain!

[okie]

Extensor Action unlocked a better understanding of the magic of the right forearm. Earlier I got carried away with the right forearm karate chopping deal. I misunderstood Tomasello's explanation. It dawned on me (again kinda like the dowels and dragging a wet mop)when I actually worked on the extensor action drills it suddenly hit me that without extensor action there can be no precision bending of the right elbow (among other things) A below plane (with #3 acc. angle) pull of the left arm by the right, an on plane right forearm with a precision bend of the right elbow to accomplish this alignment, then trying to straighten the right arm against the checkrein of the left arm will determine the precise amount of right arm bend. It is not good enough to simply bend the right elbow willy-nilly! When I felt the right elbow bending in response to my concerted effort to straighten it...I began to understand the depth of Homer's contribution to golf! I have a fighting chance to reproduce that unmistakable feel...EVERYTIME!

[Daryl]

Extensor Action unlocked a better understanding of the magic of the right forearm. Earlier I got carried away with the right forearm karate chopping deal. I misunderstood Tomasello's explanation. It dawned on me (again kinda like the dowels and dragging a wet mop)when I actually worked on the extensor action drills it suddenly hit me that without extensor action there can be no precision bending of the right elbow (among other things) A below plane (with #3 acc. angle) pull of the left arm by the right, an on plane right forearm with a precision bend of the right elbow to accomplish this alignment, then trying to straighten the right arm against the checkrein of the left arm will determine the precise amount of right arm bend. It is not good enough to simply bend the right elbow willy-nilly! When I felt the right elbow bending in response to my concerted effort to straighten it...I began to understand the depth of Homer's contribution to golf! I have a fighting chance to reproduce that unmistakable feel...EVERYTIME!

Okie,

I couldn't agree with you more. Well said.