I was looking for Taly videos on Youtube and found this video. Is he talking about some form of hitting in this video?
Thanks,
DK
(I found it is kinda funny when he said that golf instructors are not gonna like it. )
Yes Hitting for sure. He's advocating a Push Basic type inline right arm extension which is "a" way, a good way in fact. BUT, best reserved for short shots. See the Minor Basic Strokes. For longer shots you need right arm Fanning as well as the Bending, without it you will miss the UP of Back ,Up and In , Three Dimensional takeaway. Leaving you with Back and In only. Normally an off plane, under plane motion for Pivot strokes.
So he is probably right about instructors not liking it too much and I doubt it would really would take 20 strokes off your score overnight. That would be nice though.
PS If you watch his swing, on his waggle he takes it back way under the plane, less so when actually hitting but he does have to loop it back onto the plane in his downswing to make contact. Basically it sounds simple , it is simple but you cant add a pivot to that right arm Motion without going to far IN as the right shoulder will pull things IN as well. If that works for full shots without looping it back onto the plane, then the whole idea of the plane for golf is out the window.
You're not the only one, O.B. Check these photos of Jerry Kellyhttp://www.pgatour.com/players/00/80/75/ from today at the Kapalua Golf Academy in Maui, Hawaii. And yes, Jerry is using Angled Hinging in perfect concert with his Hitting Stroke.
Jim Schuman -- the guy on the left in the blue shirt -- is the Men's Golf Coach at the University of Wisconsin and a long-time LBG friend and 'lurker'. He is also Jerry's swing coach (not to mention brother-in-law!). We connected this morning on the putting green at the Plantation Course prior to Jerry's practice round; then, later today at a special clinic held at Kapalua Golf Academy.
How special was it? First, there was Jerry's masterful presentation of golf's Black Art. Then, the 'refreshments' . . .
I gotta admit, this is the first Golf Clinic I've ever attended that closed with wine, cheese and heavy hors d'oeuvres.
[Guys, stay with the thumbnails for now. My preview is giving me gigantic photos. We've got some serious fix'in to do. For now, right-click Open Link and look at something more presentable. Ben . . . Help!]
Oh? So it is ok that I can't really hit my drive 300 yards?
So when Mr. Williams says to just turn your body through his "non-arm, non-vertical, body only swing," does he really mean that or is he doing something else that his engineering training simply does not allow him to articulate without reference to a calculator or slide rule? Every gift has its limits and genius is notoriously short-winded. (Yes, that is why I ask so many dumb questions!)
Originally Posted by O.B.Left
Yes Hitting for sure. He's advocating a Push Basic type inline right arm extension which is "a" way, a good way in fact. BUT, best reserved for short shots. See the Minor Basic Strokes. For longer shots you need right arm Fanning as well as the Bending, without it you will miss the UP of Back ,Up and In , Three Dimensional takeaway. Leaving you with Back and In only. Normally an off plane, under plane motion for Pivot strokes.
So he is probably right about instructors not liking it too much and I doubt it would really would take 20 strokes off your score overnight. That would be nice though.
PS If you watch his swing, on his waggle he takes it back way under the plane, less so when actually hitting but he does have to loop it back onto the plane in his downswing to make contact. Basically it sounds simple , it is simple but you cant add a pivot to that right arm Motion without going to far IN as the right shoulder will pull things IN as well. If that works for full shots without looping it back onto the plane, then the whole idea of the plane for golf is out the window.
I do like the Tally though.
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So when Mr. Williams says to just turn your body through his "non-arm, non-vertical, body only swing," does he really mean that or is he doing something else that his engineering training simply does not allow him to articulate without reference to a calculator or slide rule? Every gift has its limits and genius is notoriously short-winded. (Yes, that is why I ask so many dumb questions!)
Hey there ict, welcome.
The only video of his Ive ever seen is the one right here in post 1, where he alludes to but doenst show a pure body power only shot, I think. If I understand your question correctly.
I've been waiting for a guy like you around here, Ict! You see, I mostly do stupid answers. We could really go places together, you and I!. Keep em coming.
Regards
Ob
PS I dont think Ive ever seen a body only powered full swing. My daughter when she was about 4 years old came the closest maybe. But even she raised that plastic club up some with her arms. Kind of. You could do it with a short shot. When putting its pretty common to move the shoulders only for instance. Chipping is maybe Arms only most times. Arnie used to use a Hands only putting style. If you have the book, read up on the Minor Basic Strokes and the Major Basic Strokes and there differences. His Taly is great but Id say he's attributing what we'd refer to as Minor Basic Strokes, (for short shots only) to full powered shots where Zone 1, (the Body) , Zone 2 ( Arms) and Zone 3 ( Hands) all get involved. Ah crap I was trying to keep this "short winded" and screwed up.