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Old 10-06-2005, 09:16 AM
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After rewatching the Australian tape again, it's clear that his Swinging procedure is nothing more than a standard 3-barrel inert left arm Swinging procedure with standard wrist action and horizontal hinging. The "long right arm" is just the normal result of an ordinary 3-barrel Swing which goes to a both arms straight position after separation. This Swing is not a right arm Swing. The right forearm has a downplane MOTION in the standard 3-barrel Swing, but it's right shoulder flywheel ACTION which produces it.
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Old 10-08-2005, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe
After rewatching the Australian tape again, it's clear that his Swinging procedure is nothing more than a standard 3-barrel inert left arm Swinging procedure with standard wrist action and horizontal hinging. The "long right arm" is just the normal result of an ordinary 3-barrel Swing which goes to a both arms straight position after separation. This Swing is not a right arm Swing. The right forearm has a downplane MOTION in the standard 3-barrel Swing, but it's right shoulder flywheel ACTION which produces it.
Joe,

I'm sorry your wrong....the right forearm (the magic of the right forearm) is controlling the WHOLE motion...from start up to finish. The body responds to the action of the right forearm...I suggest going back and re-watch the whole video series...

DG

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Old 10-08-2005, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Delaware Golf
Joe,

I'm sorry your wrong....the right forearm (the magic of the right forearm) is controlling the WHOLE motion...from start up to finish. The body responds to the action of the right forearm...I suggest going back and re-watch the whole video series...

DG
DG,

Then I'll ask again, in spite of your previous refusals to answer - how does the right forearm move? It has to be from right shoulder flywheel action OR right tricep thrust. There are no other mechanisms available to move the right forearm downplane.
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Old 10-08-2005, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe
DG,

Then I'll ask again, in spite of your previous refusals to answer - how does the right forearm move? It has to be from right shoulder flywheel action OR right tricep thrust. There are no other mechanisms available to move the right forearm downplane.
Right Shoulder responds to the action of the Right Forearm...Right Triceps respond to the action of the Right Forearm....there I said it (and I have been saying FOR A LONG TIME). For the umpteenth time it's called the MAGIC OF THE RIGHT FOREARM.

For Tom Tomasello October 1993...driving range Deer Track Golf Resort.

Backstroke sequence: Right Forearm (Takeaway), Shoulders, Hips (clearing right hip).

Downstroke sequence: Right Forearm (start down), Shoulders, Hips (pay attention to the left hip it must keep moving...sliding action motion at the beginning of the downstroke (in response to the right forearm moving downplane), rotating hip action once the right arm reconnects to the body, right elbow in front of the right hip.)

DG

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Old 10-08-2005, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Delaware Golf
Right Shoulder responds to the action of the Right Forearm...Right Triceps respond to the action of the Right Forearm....there I said it (and I have been saying FOR A LONG TIME). For the umpteenth time it's called the MAGIC OF THE RIGHT FOREARM.

DG
OK, what causes this right forearm "action" that EVERYTHING is responding to?
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Old 10-08-2005, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe
OK, what causes this right forearm "action" that EVERYTHING is responding to?
The GOLFER... naturally....and his/her right forearm!!! The proceeding action would be birth from his or her mother and father....just kidding (Joe, we should make this a comedy routine).

DG
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Old 10-08-2005, 11:03 AM
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I do not feel my right forearm move. I feel my hands move, my hips move, my elbow even. The right forearm is pure magic but I can't start it without the pivot, hips and hands moving first. The right forearm is a major alignment tracing the Plane Line, I don't want to move it out of place without my lane producer- pivot hips.


And as you make mention to often,
Penick's magic move isn't an arm move first. It is a hand shift, elbow relocation, with a simultaneous weight shift or slide.

just my two cents within the family of devoted machiners
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Old 10-08-2005, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Delaware Golf
The GOLFER... naturally....and his/her right forearm!!! The proceeding action would be birth from his or her mother and father....just kidding (Joe, we should make this a comedy routine).

DG
This is DG's last answer to my question of what causes the action of the right forearm which DG claims that both the right shoulder and the right tricep RESPOND to!

It's the GOLFER and before this answer, the answer was simply MAGIC!

And so there it is - DG doesn't give a straight answer, either because he can't or won't.

Here's what I can say about the so-called TT right arm swing:

1) Tomasello is teaching a 3-barrel inert left arm swinging procedure - at least he says it's a swing, and it looks like it when he makes an actual pass at the ball. He uses standard wrist action and emphasizes keeping the left hip moving through impact to keep the left wrist from bending. When he demos the swing without hitting a ball, he gets to the delivery position and forcefully extends his right arm down and out with the right tricep, saying "HIT IT HIT IT HIT IT", but I don't think he does this when he actually hits a ball. But even if he does, this is not a right arm swing, but rather a hit or a swit. This right arm extension is found in all TGM patterns - it is a result of CF in a swing and intentionally done in a hit(which TT calls a "punch"). I don't see anywhere on the video where he even mentions a "right arm swing".

2) We don't know what DG is doing because he won't answer my question.
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