tongzilla is very excited about the revamped forum and is poised to make his first contribution. I hope Yoda won't smack me with his dowels for butting in .
As phillygolf has elluded to earlier, there are two Secrets of Golf. I will give an overview which hopefully will spark off some discussion.
1) Sustaining the Line of Compression (2-0).
One can imagine this to be a shooting a pool stick through cue ball. The straight path the cue takes as it goes through the ball is the Line of Compression. The point where the stick striks the ball is the Compression Point. This is a Linear Force, which simply means the force acts in a straight line.
In golf, the Clubhead is moving in a circle, hence we have Angular Force. But our objective is to produce the same effect as a Linear Force with the orbiting Clubhead. We achieve this by having the contact point between the Ball and Clubface welded at the same point from Impact to Separation. All while the Clubhead is moving in an arc.
This can only be achieved by using Horizontal Hinging.
Hitters using Angled Hinging does not have the Clubface and Clubshaft rotating around the same center (in fact the Clubface has no center), and hence cannot maintain the same Compression Point through Impact. So you better find a good way to compensate for this inferiorty if you're a Hitter!
2) Clubhead Lag (6-C-2)
There are actually three types of Lag: Pivot Lag (Body Poit for Swingers and Launching Pad for Hitters), Accumulator Lag (6-B-1/2/3/4) and Clubhead Lag (6-C-2). So that angle between the Clubshaft and Left Arm everyone in the Golf World talks about is merely Accumulator #2 Lag. Contrary to popular belief, you can be using a Sweep Release and still have lots of Clubhead Lag.
Clubhead lag is that heaviness you feel through Pressure Point #3 as Club changes direction. The Longitundinal Center of Gravity of the Club (i.e. the Sweetspot), resists that change due to its inertia (i.e. mass). The Sweetspot doesn't want to move, but it has to. This stresses the Clubshaft and produces that heavy feeling which you try to maintain all the way down, never even thinking about releasing this heaviness. This feel may be cultivated by dragging a wet mop from Release to Follow-Through.
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Last edited by tongzilla : 10-08-2005 at 01:29 PM.
tongzilla is very excited about the revamped forum and is poised to make his first contribution. I hope Yoda won't smack me with his dowels for butting in .
As phillygolf has elluded to earlier, there are two Secrets of Golf. I will give an overview which hopefully will spark off some discussion.
1) Sustaining the Line of Compression (2-0).
One can imagine this to be a shooting a pool stick through cue ball. The straight path the cue takes as it goes through the ball is the Line of Compression. The point where the stick striks the ball is the Compression Point. This is a Linear Force, which simply means the force acts in a straight line.
In golf, the Clubhead is moving in a circle, hence we have Angular Force. But our objective is to produce the same effect as a Linear Force with the orbiting Clubhead. We achieve this by having the contact point between the Ball and Clubface welded at the same point from Impact to Separation. All while the Clubhead is moving in an arc.
This can only be achieved by using Horizontal Hinging.
Hitters using Angled Hinging does not have the Clubface and Clubshaft rotating around the same center (in fact the Clubface has no center), and hence cannot maintain the same Compression Point through Impact. So you better find a good way to compensate for this inferiorty if you're a Hitter!
2) Clubhead Lag (6-C-2)
There are actually three types of Lag: Pivot Lag (Body Poit for Swingers and Launching Pad for Hitters), Accumulator Lag (6-B-1/2/3/4) and Clubhead Lag (6-C-2). So that angle between the Clubshaft and Left Arm everyone in the Golf World talks about is merely Accumulator #2 Lag. Contrary to popular belief, you can be using a Sweep Release and still have lots of Clubhead Lag.
Clubhead lag is that heaviness you feel through Pressure Point #3 as Club changes direction. The Longitundinal Center of Gravity of the Club (i.e. the Sweetspot), resists that change due to its inertia (i.e. mass). The Sweetspot doesn't want to move, but it has to. This stresses the Clubshaft and produces that heavy feeling which you try to maintain all the way down, never even thinking about releasing this heaviness. This feel may be cultivated by dragging a wet mop from Release to Follow-Through.
I am not sure that I can buy into the logic.
True Angle Hinging per-se lack a true center, BUT it is quite clear the component composition in 12-1-0 for a Hitter is to use Angle Hinging.
Now 2-C-0 (Linear Force) does elude to '..perfectly centered action -- or a compensating manipulation', however it discusses that the Physical Center not be the center of the ball or gravitational center, just the point of compression. "In other words, the original contact points of the Clubface and ball must remain in contact throughout the entire Impact Interval. This is possible only if the motion--or arc--is uniform..."
So I guess what I am saying I don't track with your logic regarding Horizontal Hinging. In fact what would you say in regards to Vertical Hinging?
And I am a bit concerned that it appears that Hinging is the Key to Sustaining the Line of Compression, I thought there were some other elements that were of equal if not more importance.
Clubhead lag is that heaviness you feel through Pressure Point #3 as Club changes direction. The Longitundinal Center of Gravity of the Club (i.e. the Sweetspot), resists that change due to its inertia (i.e. mass). The Sweetspot doesn't want to move, but it has to. This stresses the Clubshaft and produces that heavy feeling which you try to maintain all the way down, never even thinking about releasing this heaviness. This feel may be cultivated by dragging a wet mop from Release to Follow-Through.
The secret is out and jig is up. No need for me to write: I'm goin' fishin'!
Explain please. What secret are you talking about and what physical problem do you have in its accomplishmnet?
What secret??? Have you read the quote to which I responded?
Lag is described but the only mention of HOW it is obtained is a single sentence about dragging a wet mop through impact. The problem is that a wet mop can be drug through impact incorrectly and in such a way that when switching from a wet mop to a golf club, lag won't happen. Someone who doesn't have lag and having read the above posts, still won't.
For me and most of my golfing life, I rarely sensed clubhead lag. Then I did. Yoda had me working on my rhythm, take the club to top, pause and slide the hips then complete the stroke. It was during this drill that 'wow' that was different, I could feel it. I must admit we had made one additional change and that was in my start up twisting the last 3 fingers of the left hand under.
Since then Feeling the lag has come and gone and now its back. When Vickie gave me some exercises to do, she made a point that they needed to be done slow and smooth motions.
Light bulb time. Yup I was taking the club back to fast which required me to tighten my grip to the point that I didn't feel the pressure point. I slowed the back stroke down and realized I didn't have apply a death grip to control the club at the top and there it was.
Recently I have tried experimenting with taking the right thumb and index finger off the shaft and swinging. Do you think you can still monitor/feel lag?
I still rely on one Yoda's tips regarding the grip, have the right thumb over the top, not on top, but over, this seems, at least for me to allow to feel PP#1, PP#3 easily.
If you need to get the feel of this, I would suggest try using a putter and just one hand. PP#1 is where the drive applied and PP#3 should feel the weight.
What secret??? Have you read the quote to which I responded?
Chill out Joe. There is a two question mark limit.
I wanted to make sure we were talking about the same thing- you left it open as to what you thought the secret was. I live with women, my mind reading skills deteriorated years ago.
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Lag is described but the only mention of HOW it is obtained is a single sentence about dragging a wet mop through impact. The problem is that a wet mop can be drug through impact incorrectly and in such a way that when switching from a wet mop to a golf club, lag won't happen.
Swab the deck mate. Can't push it and have the hands ahead of the big wet heavy mop head.
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Someone who doesn't have lag and having read the above posts, still won't.
So the "jig" isn't up.
He or she will have an understanding of lag after dragging a mop. One step at a time. I'm sure some time in incubation is worth owning a secret.
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