The New Big Stick

[Yoda]

Yoda, wait until winter for the Retail Nike Sasquate "tour" version. Not as long heel/toe and a little deeper bottom to top. Much more suited to a better player.

Thanks for the heads-up, Jim. Seems I may have been a bit ahead here (without knowing it). My session with the SasQuatch came during a lesson with a PGA TOUR player. He is under contract with Nike and had just received the club.

[jim_0068]

Well them i'm sure you got to hit a better model

The tour van versions usually have a face angle suited to the player (usually square or open for most horizontal hingers) and are usually more "neutrally" weighted.

For instance if you took my retail comp and a tour comp, you wouldn't find that 25g redistributed in the heel in the tour head.

So, WHAT DID you think of it?

[hue]

What Jim says about Tour Issue heads being different is correct. I have a Tour issue R7 TP and have compared it against the Retail R7 TP and they don't perform the same. The Tour Issue version is much more solid and they have done something to the COG to bring the ball flight down and reduce spin rates. I also understand that better high grade Titanium is used in making the Tour Issue versions. They are designed for players with high club head speed which Yoda has . The retail verions are designed around the needs of Mr Throwaway hacker. If the Nike you used was Tour Issue this will be a lot different compared to the retail version. So if you are going to get one get one from your tour contact. I have my clubs fitted by these guys www.precisiongolf.co.uk . They are very good. I am a high spin player and they said I should stay away from the new super big headed drivers as they would not suit me and bring my already high spin rates up.

[RickPinewild]

I tried a Sasquatch Lucky 13 with the Diamanna shaft and really like it. Could not tell distance on the range and the balls were bad, but it was the only club out of 4 manufacturers that felt good. I've been using a 460cc head from Wishon with one of his shafts and hit it as good as any I've ever had. Could be my TGM swing is getting better.

[MizunoJoe]

Brian Manzella posted a while back that the Cleveland Pro Launch 460 composite driver was SIGNIFICANTLY longer than the other 460 drivers. I don't believe that in general the bigger heads could give more distance unless the shaft length were increased beyond 45". I still use a 300cc titanium head - the Mizuno Pro 300S, because it sounds like persimmon.

[RickPinewild]

RWH

Do you think the head is longer or perhaps the shaft. What shafts were in the ones you tried.

[jim_0068]

hue...tour heads are different but i wouldn't go for the "different grade of titanium." It just doesn't make sense from a manufacturing sense. But they do manipulate the head weights, face angles, and COGs.

Also brian said (i believe in an audio answer) that the Cleveland Comp consistently is getting the highest ball speeds from the correlating swing speeds than any other driver. I've talked to a few shops and they agree it gets some impressive ball speed numbers. Some others that do the same thing are the TM R5 and the Ben Hogan CS3.