Accumulator #3 is probably one of the more confusing Accumulators. That's how I find it anyway. Probably because it's interrelated with so many other things.
I prefer to view it as the angle formed between Clubshaft and Left Arm when the Wrist is Level as drewitgolf said earlier. There can only be an angle formed if you put the grip under your heel pad. If it goes in the thumb pad (e.g. in putting), then there won't be an angle when your Wrist is Level.
The confusing bit is that if your Left wrist is Cocked (i.e. Accumulator #2), that also counts as accumulator #3 even though you may initially have zero Clubshaft/Left Arm angle when your Left Wrist was Level.
In case you were wondering what "maintaining its radial alignment" means, it's basically about keeping a Flat Left Wrist, so the Clubshaft and Left Arm forms a straight line when you're looking perpendicular at it (but not if you're looking sideways because of the Acc #3 angle). So in that sense, it's never "out-of-line", but in-line.
All other things being equal, more Accumulator #3 equals greater Clubhead travel distance with the same amount of Roll with your Left Wrist. This equates to more Clubhead speed. But all other things are not equal because the more Accumulator #3 you have, the sooner you have to start Uncocking your Left Wrist (releasing Accumulator #2) which prevents the Trigger Delay needed in a Snap Release.
For those still incubating, you must make the link between the following:
Rhythm
Hinge Action
Flat Left Wrist
Accumulator #3
Clubhead Travel
Left Wrist Roll/Motion
Lag Loading
The above list may confuse you even more (I hope not!), or it may help you. Due to time constraints at the moment, I cannot go into detail about their interrelatedness.
If you choke down on the grip with your left hand with the grip in the cup of your hand and keep the butt of the grip against the underneath of your left forearm the " ULNA "your left wrist will be level or if you take your normal grip(under the pad)and uncock your left wrist This will "zero out" acc#3.If you try hitting chip shots with both hands on the club using just acc#1 you will get the feel of acc#3(not being there!).This might sound bass ackwards but Yoda had me doing this early in my recent lesson ...quote..."we are going to hit shots with the least power first"I expected at least a chip...but I never understood acc#3!!!!!! .This also gave me my first aquaintence with......EXTENSOR ACTION!!!.This might not have been Yodas intention so early in the lesson BUT I SUSPECT IT WAS!!!
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Last edited by neil : 10-19-2005 at 10:41 PM.
Reason: slight technical error
Accumulator #3 is probably one of the more confusing Accumulators. That's how I find it anyway. Probably because it's interrelated with so many other things.
I prefer to view it as the angle formed between Clubshaft and Left Arm when the Wrist is Level as drewitgolf said earlier. There can only be an angle formed if you put the grip under your heel pad. If it goes in the thumb pad (e.g. in putting), then there won't be an angle when your Wrist is Level.
The confusing bit is that if your Left wrist is Cocked (i.e. Accumulator #2), that also counts as accumulator #3 even though you may initially have zero Clubshaft/Left Arm angle when your Left Wrist was Level.
In case you were wondering what "maintaining its radial alignment" means, it's basically about keeping a Flat Left Wrist, so the Clubshaft and Left Arm forms a straight line when you're looking perpendicular at it (but not if you're looking sideways because of the Acc #3 angle). So in that sense, it's never "out-of-line", but in-line.
All other things being equal, more Accumulator #3 equals greater Clubhead travel distance with the same amount of Roll with your Left Wrist. This equates to more Clubhead speed. But all other things are not equal because the more Accumulator #3 you have, the sooner you have to start Uncocking your Left Wrist (releasing Accumulator #2) which prevents the Trigger Delay needed in a Snap Release.
For those still incubating, you must make the link between the following:
Rhythm
Hinge Action
Flat Left Wrist
Accumulator #3
Clubhead Travel
Left Wrist Roll/Motion
Lag Loading
The above list may confuse you even more (I hope not!), or it may help you. Due to time constraints at the moment, I cannot go into detail about their interrelatedness.
Strong post! Nice job setting this up. We can definitely go deeper here.
For those still incubating, you must make the link between the following:
Rhythm
Hinge Action
Flat Left Wrist
Accumulator #3
Clubhead Travel
Left Wrist Roll/Motion
Lag Loading
The above list may confuse you even more (I hope not!), or it may help you. Due to time constraints at the moment, I cannot go into detail about their interrelatedness.
Hello Tongzilla...
I'd like to check out your interrelatedness on this....I am a bit rusty (no doubt!) and am looking forward to seeing it when you have the time!!!
This accumulator angle still confuses me. There are a number of points:-
I understand that the 3 accumulator angle does not affect the left arm flying wedge, but doesn't it affect the right arm flying wedge?
Wouldn't you need to change the plane angle to accomodate the 3 accumulator angle and maintain the right arm wedge?
Also, I don't really understand the pros and cons of incorporating this angle into any stroke - hitting or swinging. The Endless Belt Effect seems to suggest that the smaller the pulley(zero angle), the more clubhead speed generated. I think 6-B-3-A hints at the answer for hitting, but it is unclear to me. It would seem that, if swinging, there is no reason to incorporate this angle at all.
Could anyone help shed some light on any of these areas? This has me stumped.
This accumulator angle still confuses me. There are a number of points:-
I understand that the 3 accumulator angle does not affect the left arm flying wedge, but doesn't it affect the right arm flying wedge?
Wouldn't you need to change the plane angle to accomodate the 3 accumulator angle and maintain the right arm wedge?
Also, I don't really understand the pros and cons of incorporating this angle into any stroke - hitting or swinging. The Endless Belt Effect seems to suggest that the smaller the pulley(zero angle), the more clubhead speed generated. I think 6-B-3-A hints at the answer for hitting, but it is unclear to me. It would seem that, if swinging, there is no reason to incorporate this angle at all.
Could anyone held shed some light on any of these areas? This has me stumped.
Cheers
Bobby J
By definition, the wedges are set with the wrists in a 'level' condition. If you have a large accumulator #3 (low hands), you will not have a proper right forearm wedge at address.
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I understand that the right arm flying wedge is set with a level right wrist. I thought the only condition of the left arm flying wedge was that it is ALWAYS positioned against the plane of the left wristcock motion (i.e a flat left wrist).
I can maintain the right arm wedge AND have a large #3 accumulator angle by holding the shaft in the heel of my left hand. I know that this creates a longer distance for the clubhead to travel during release, but I don't know of any reasons why this could be a good (or bad) thing.
If any #3 accumulator angle makes the "mandatory" right arm flying wedge "improper", then, as before, why would one be incorporated into any stroke? Also, per 6-B-3-A, Homer states ...there must always be a definite Accumulator #3 "Overtaking" Action.
There must always be a definite Accumulator #3 'Overtaking' Action unless...
Accumulator #3 has been Zeroed out.
In which case, the Left Arm and Clubshaft are already In Line.
Hence, there can be no 'seeking to maintain the In Line condition' characteristic of the #3 Accumulator action.
I understand that this is the case when #3 accumulator is zeroed out - no travel, only clubface action.
I was just trying to emphasise the point that if a #3 accumulator angle makes the mandatory right arm wedge flying wedge improper, why would Homer have us use any accumulator #3 angle in the first place?
I thought the 'in line' requirement was just that of the left arm flying wedge (vertical plane), so, with or without #3 accumulator, we are always in line as long as we have a flat left wrist. If 'inline' meant zero #3 accumulator then the left arm would be on plane.
Also, I thought the 'overtaking' action that Homer described was the feel of the clubhead overtaking the hands due to release rotation whenever a #3 accumulator angle is employed. It is not actually overtaking, it just has a longer distance to travel when the #3 angle is large (large pulley). Please correct me if I am wrong
So, does anybody know why anyone would incorporate a #3 accumulator angle when swinging if a snap release and a small pulley provides maximum power? Shouldn't this angle be avoided?
And, when hitting, is this angle beneficial in some way? Should it be incorporated into all hitting procedures?
I understand that the right arm flying wedge is set with a level right wrist. I thought the only condition of the left arm flying wedge was that it is ALWAYS positioned against the plane of the left wristcock motion (i.e a flat left wrist).
I can maintain the right arm wedge AND have a large #3 accumulator angle by holding the shaft in the heel of my left hand. I know that this creates a longer distance for the clubhead to travel during release, but I don't know of any reasons why this could be a good (or bad) thing.
You are correct, bobbj. And minimizing the #3 Angle serves only to enable the player to Delay longer the Release (and thus increase Clubhead Speed for any given Handspeed per 2-M-2-4). It alters nothing geometric.
.This also gave me my first aquaintence with......EXTENSOR ACTION!!!.This might not have been Yodas intention so early in the lesson BUT I SUSPECT IT WAS!!!
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