I would like to hear some discussion of where the #3 Pressure Point is located in relation to the Plane Line during the 10-20-E "Palm up to the Plane" position, as compared to where it would, or should be for(usually) a Hitter, who is probably using Single Wrist Action and Right Arm Throw.
At the Swinger's End Backstroke, the #3 pressure Point has rotated to the top of the Shaft and against the first knuckle -- the equivalent of a Weak Single Action Grip (10-2-A). It remains there at least until Release and possibly through Impact (not mechanically the ideal, but not disastrous either since Centrifugal Force, not Muscular Effort, is driving the Club).
The Hitter should stop at the Top of the Line Delivery Path. In so doing, his #3 Pressure Point never varies: It remains against the back of the Shaft and in the meaty part of the Right Forefinger.
The Plane Line itself has no effect on the #3 Pressure Point Location of either Swinger or Hitter. Except, of course, that the #3 Pressure Point -- or any alternative Pressure Point assigned the Clubhead Lag -- must always be driven unfailingly toward the Line (1-L #10).
At the Swinger's End Backstroke, the #3 pressure Point has rotated to the top of the Shaft and against the first knuckle -- the equivalent of a Weak Single Action Grip (10-2-A). It remains there at least until Release and possibly through Impact (not mechanically the ideal, but not disastrous either since Centrifugal Force, not Muscular Effort, is driving the Club).
The Hitter should stop at the Top of the Line Delivery Path. In so doing, his #3 Pressure Point never varies: It remains against the back of the Shaft and in the meaty part of the Right Forefinger.
The Plane Line itself has no effect on the #3 Pressure Point Location of either Swinger or Hitter. Except, of course, that the #3 Pressure Point -- or any alternative Pressure Point assigned the Clubhead Lag -- must always be driven unfailingly toward the Line (1-L #10).
Doc,
Is the #3 pressure point also rotated for a swinger who ends at TOP?
Is the #3 pressure point also rotated for a swinger who ends at TOP?
No, Colonel.
Ideally, the Swinger begins his Stroke with the #3 Pressure Point in the meaty part of the Right Forefinger and directly behind the Shaft. He does not actively change that Loading to against the first knuckle (and the top of the Shaft). Instead, as the Backstroke progresses from Top (of the Line Delivery Path -- Right Shoulder high and On Plane) to End (anywhere, even a fraction, beyond Top) that function is performed by the motion of the Club itself.
As the Club approaches the horizontal, its momentum pulls the Club more and more toward the Ground. This Action gradually loads the Sweetspot Plane of Rotation Pressure away from the back of the Shaft and toward its top. Meanwhile, the Right Forearm (and Elbow) that initially supported the back of the Shaft now supports its top.
That Loading Action does not exist for the Swinger who restricts his Backstroke to Top.
Ideally, the Swinger begins his Stroke with the #3 Pressure Point in the meaty part of the Right Forefinger and directly behind the Shaft. He does not actively change that Loading to against the first knuckle (and the top of the Shaft). Instead, as the Backstroke progresses from Top (of the Line Delivery Path -- Right Shoulder high and On Plane) to End (anywhere, even a fraction, beyond Top) that function is performed by the motion of the Club itself.
As the Club approaches the horizontal, its momentum pulls the Club more and more toward the Ground. This Action gradually loads the Sweetspot Plane of Rotation Pressure away from the back of the Shaft and toward its top. Meanwhile, the Right Forearm (and Elbow) that initially supported the back of the Shaft now supports its top.
That Loading Action does not exist for the Swinger who restricts his Backstroke to Top.
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Will you guys support a premium site? If so, what is reasonable? No kidding. This site needs you. For the best golf instruction pieces in the world...what is reasonable?
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Is the #3 pressure point also rotated for a swinger who ends at TOP?
Muchas!
B
12 Piece...
When you say top, do you mean top per 8-6 or top arc per 10-23-C and 10-23-D. I was at first confused with Lynn's answer...and want to make sure I understand your reference.
The Top location for a Swinger is The End.
All players reach the Top, which can either be the Top (for Hitter) or the End (Swinger).
Now I have a similar question:
For a Swinger performing Basic or Acquired motion (chip or pitch), should they feel the quater point turn even though the hands are no where near the End?
Now, the reason Yoda gives for the feel of quater point turn is because of the effect of gravity and momentum of the club as it approaches horizontal. If this is the only reason, then the swinger should not feel this quater point rotation to the top of the shaft when doing chips or pitches.
However, could the mere act of longitundinally accelerating the club (i.e. Drag Loading) also rotate this pressure point from the aft to the top of the shaft?