Start up Swivel changes the shaft to sweetspot rotation which may or may not have a direct relationship to the 1/4 Turn loading direction rather than an actual turn at the Top/End...
I could be wrong? I would welcome correction if needed!!!
To me Swivel is more of a shaft/sweetspot thing than exclusively a clubface thing...
The clubface thing is subject to the "Hinge Action." Executing Impact as a swivel leads to erratic clubface alignments/motions
Pressure Point #3 moves(on it's own) to the top of the shaft when the club goes to the END, with Swinging. You don't have to manually rotate it. Some keep it there, in the weak position, and some have it return to the aft(ON PLANE) position on the downswing before IMPACT.
IF... a Hitter rotates to the WEAK position... he will ususlly have problems. He needs to keep that #3 AFT, where it can be in a PUSHING position.
When using a startup swivel, CF on the backswing can load lag pressure along the joint/pad next to PP#3. Not a 'real' pressure point, but one that can be felt when using startup swivel. This can be a little 'extra' help for maintaining extensor action - using CF - rather than using only right arm.
The feeling of the 'wheels rim'
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With Standard Wrist Action the Left Wrist Turns and the Right Forearm FANS. The #3 Pressure Point will go along with this movement. I think the #3 Pressure Point Rotation Mr. Kelley talks about(10-11-O-3) is at the End(Swinging).
Lagster...
Only with 10-18-A???
Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Philly,
Start up Swivel changes the shaft to sweetspot rotation which may or may not have a direct relationship to the 1/4 Turn loading direction rather than an actual turn at the Top/End...
I could be wrong? I would welcome correction if needed!!!
To me Swivel is more of a shaft/sweetspot thing than exclusively a clubface thing...
the clubface thing is subject to the "Hinge Action" Executing Impact as a swivel leads to erratic clubface alignments/motions
Yoda....Am I on to it or NOT????
Annikan
Hang on my friend!
Doesnt um....different wrist actions wind up with the same top position???
Originally Posted by lagster
some have it return to the aft(ON PLANE) position on the downswing before IMPACT.
How?
Originally Posted by tongzilla
There should be a Strong Single Action grip throughout the stroke.
So....
Freddy with his 10-2-D doesnt have a rotating lag pressure point????
Since LAG is the secret, it would be good to understand exactly what the PRESSURE POINT that senses and monitors that Lag Pressure is doing, and where it is!
If you take a little flashlight or laser and shine it out of your #3... you will see that the right forearm motion back, up, and in, if done properly, will shine the light on the plane line. This can be done with Standard, or Single Wrist Action.
Now... when the #3 is ROTATED to the (top of the shaft) at the END with Swinging, and HOW it returns to the AFT side of the shaft on the downswing, is another thing. This question, I think, really has not been answered yet. I would say that this happens by either Centrifugal Force, or by a learned hand manipulation. Some, of course, leave the #3 in the weak position after it moves there at the END.
A description is given in 10-11-O-3, but HOW the return to the AFT side is done is not really given... it just says it "may" happen when the "wrists SWIVEL back to their Vertical Position.
You have answered your own question. Pressure Point #3 returns to its aft position after the Release Swivel on the Downstroke. The Release Swivel is a result from Centrifugal Force doing its job. The Hands need to be educated to learn how to utilise Centrifugal Force so the Swivel does not become an erratic flip.
A Swinger performing Single Wrist Action on the Downstroke already has its Pressure Point #3 on the aft side of the shaft.
The Lever Assembly must be driven through Impact by an On Plane Force. Also, Clubhead Force and Motion is On Plane at right angles to the Sweetspot.
Hence there are significant sensory advantages for the player who has their Pressure Point #3 on the aft of the shaft from Release to Follow Through. One of the main purpose of PP#3 is to feel the Clubhead Lag Pressure Point, and this euphoric feeling reaches its climax when PP#3 is directly behind the shaft (aft), not under or over.
For those of us who are less talented than PGA professionals, why would you want to further diminish that heavy feeling of Clubhead Lag (for most of us we hardly have any to start with anyway!) by having your PP#3 under the shaft? (rhetorical question )
Start up Swivel changes the shaft to sweetspot rotation which may or may not have a direct relationship to the 1/4 Turn loading direction rather than an actual turn at the Top/End...
I could be wrong? I would welcome correction if needed!!!
To me Swivel is more of a shaft/sweetspot thing than exclusively a clubface thing...
The clubface thing is subject to the "Hinge Action." Executing Impact as a swivel leads to erratic clubface alignments/motions.
Yoda...Are you sure I'm onto it???...just when I think I am ..I'm NOT...when I think I'm NOT...I actually AM !!!! Make sense...such is the "mystery of incubation"...
Yoda...Are you sure I'm onto it???...just when I think I am ..I'm NOT...when I think I'm NOT...I actually AM !!!! Make sense...such is the "mystery of incubation"...
Thanks for any validation...
A.S.
I was talking to Philly just the other night , and my point was, it's all about pressure points and the LCG. Forget flat clubface surfaces and imagine cue through cue ball-to-billiard ball compressions and reactions.
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