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Old 11-05-2005, 02:22 AM
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"After a 13-B or 12-C Backstroke Shoulder Turn, the Right Shoulder moves toward Impact precisely on the preselected Downstroke Clubshaft Plane, estblishing and supporting the Power Package Delivery alignments."

Can someone clear this up for me. How can the rear shoulder move downplane at startdown, on anything but the Turned Shoulder Plane?
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Is the Turned Shoulder plane the angle that runs through the shoulder and baseline of the plane no matter where the shoulder stops or gets to in the backstroke?

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Old 11-06-2005, 11:55 AM
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anyone?

Is the Turned Shoulder plane the angle that runs through the shoulder and baseline of the plane no matter where the shoulder stops or gets to in the backstroke?

YES-That's right.
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Old 11-07-2005, 02:32 AM
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thanks Mike

Originally Posted by nevermind

Homer:
"After a 13-B or 12-C Backstroke Shoulder Turn, the Right Shoulder moves toward Impact precisely on the preselected Downstroke Clubshaft Plane, estblishing and supporting the Power Package Delivery alignments."

If the downsing has plane shifts, which plane angle is the preselected Downstroke Clubshaft Plane?

Given that the shoulder is on the Turned Shoulder Plane at the end of the backstroke, no matter which shoulder turn is used, how can the rear shoulder move downplane at startdown, on anything but that plane?
Changed the quotation to include all both my questions. Now, I'm dying here, whats the deal!
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Old 11-07-2005, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by nevermind
Homer:
"After a 13-B or 12-C Backstroke Shoulder Turn, the Right Shoulder moves toward Impact precisely on the preselected Downstroke Clubshaft Plane, estblishing and supporting the Power Package Delivery alignments."

If the downsing has plane shifts, which plane angle is the preselected Downstroke Clubshaft Plane?

Given that the shoulder is on the Turned Shoulder Plane at the end of the backstroke, no matter which shoulder turn is used, how can the rear shoulder move downplane at startdown, on anything but that plane?
Your preselected plane will be your Basic Plane Angle (10-6). So if you are shifting from the Turned Shoulder Plane to the Elbow Plane on the downstroke your hands and clubshaft should move towards that plane angle. Your Right Shoulder would never move onto the Elbow Plane because it's too shallow.

The rear shoulder can move on, above or below the established Turned Shuolder Plane (angle from ball to right shoulder at the top only, not during downstroke) during startdown.
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Old 11-07-2005, 08:30 AM
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I'm still all fogged up.

In that example, shifting in the Downstroke from the Turned Shoulder Plane to the Elbow Plane, which is the preselected Downstroke Clubshaft Plane (Basic Plane Angle)? Or is the Basic Plane Angle a plane all of its own?
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I'm still all fogged up.

In that example, shifting in the Downstroke from the Turned Shoulder Plane to the Elbow Plane, which is the preselected Downstroke Clubshaft Plane (Basic Plane Angle)?
Elbow Plane
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