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Old 11-09-2005, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
6-M-1 DOWNSTROKE SEQUENCE The Downstroke sequence of the Stroke Components is dictated essentially by Centrifugal Force; acceleration of a lagging Componet will cease at the instant it achieves an “In-Line” position with its immediately preceding Component.

Centers and Accumulators can be sequenced, overlapped, omitted, emphasized, triggered, and timed as the players understanding and skill permit. But the Club’s Swing Radius (6-B-0) ends at the “non-lagging” Component nearest to the Clubhead. The “Centers” of the Stroke start with the Feet or the employeed Component nearest to the feet in the following order: Knees, Hips, Shoulders, arms, Right Elbow, Left Wristcock and/or Left Hand Rotation. For maximum Power, the position of must be taken with that will allow Delay of the Release until all Components, except the Right Foot and Right Shoulder, have reached, or passed the Line-of-Site-to-the-Ball per 6-B-1-C. Then the Accumulators must move very rapidly toward their “In-Line” Position. But none should actually arrive (lose all their Lag and Drag until well after Impact. Also see 6-H-0.

Power Accumulators Release sequence is #4, #1, #2, #3 – regardless of which ones are being employed. Any Accumulator number may overlap or replace its preceding number but cannot precede it. Increase Overlap to increase THRUST – decrease Overlap to increase Velocity
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Can someone explain what is meant by quick start down in 19-C which surely must relate to 6-M1?

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Old 11-09-2005, 11:43 PM
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Can someone explain what is meant by quick start down in 10-19-C which surely must relate to 6-M-1?
Hi Cal,

Congratulations on this first post and also, on your fine grandson, Collin Neeman!

The Swinger's 'quick Start Down' of 10-19-C does not refer to a quick Hand action. Instead, it refers to an Instant Acceleration Hip Action that Loads the Power Package and sets the stage for the Downstroke's unwinding of the coiled Left Side.

The biggest problem the young Jack Nicklaus had to overcome was Flashing Hands (from the Top). With the aid of his teacher, Jack Grout, he learned to use his Pivot --not his Hands -- to begin the Downstroke. And the rest, as they say, is history.
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Old 01-09-2006, 07:13 PM
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Sorry for the newbie type post but where I get into trouble is the movement of the hips. How does one get the feel for the proper amount of hip slide and pivot action so as not to over or under do it?
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Old 01-09-2006, 10:05 PM
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Sorry for the newbie type post but where I get into trouble is the movement of the hips. How does one get the feel for the proper amount of hip slide and pivot action so as not to over or under do it?

A good place to begin is with a heavy club and your eyes closed. That will show you if your hip motion (or lack of it) is causing you to fall off balance. Hold your finish, with your eyes closed, and picture the shot you want in your mind.

When you can swing with your eyes closed, holding your finish until 'the ball lands' - chances are your pivot will be in a decent condition.


Beyond a balance issue, I'd have to see your motion.
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Old 01-19-2006, 11:57 PM
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It seems for that my hips have no idea what they are supposed to do. Either that or my hands are too stubborn to let the hip do its job first.

I think my hips are turning before any slide or bump, which causes my right shoulder to never go down, only out. Hence, it's a big fat OTT move. Good news is that I never slice it. Just pulls and hooks. My left leg is turning. My back is hurting. In sum, I'm a mess.

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Old 01-23-2006, 05:33 PM
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It seems for that my hips have no idea what they are supposed to do. Either that or my hands are too stubborn to let the hip do its job first.

I think my hips are turning before any slide or bump, which causes my right shoulder to never go down, only out. Hence, it's a big fat OTT move. Good news is that I never slice it. Just pulls and hooks. My left leg is turning. My back is hurting. In sum, I'm a mess.
The job of your hips is to respond to the hands. Just like throwing a ball.

Imagine skipping a rock, or throwing a stick for a dog (but from golf posture - one of Snead's great images).

As you do this, pay attention to the right forearm and shoulder.

There is a key difference between skipping a rock, and the same motion in golf - the plane. When you skip a rock, the water is horizontal, and your throw is therefore going to account for that. In golf - imagine the "lake is tilted" at 45 degrees to the horizon, and adjust your throw accordingly.

This will get your right shoulder 'down plane' properly, and will make the throw feel 'out to right field' a bit. More of an 'upper cut' motion.

Your hips and pivot will respond in the golf swing, the same way they respond to throwing the stick or stone.
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