I prefer a pivot-oriented takeaway. Std. hip action. Some players do better with r. forearm takeaway. Golf is a game of choices.
It depends on the flexibility of the person. The so called 'one piece' takeaway simply can't be done properly if you are not flexible enough and IMO it can be hard to do RFT if you are very flexible.
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One can use right forearm takeaway for both swingers and hitters, but if the person has no real preferences, then I think the pivot oriented takeaway is better for the swinger.
A reason why this pivot takeaway has had a bad rep recently is because if your hands are not educated, it will take the club underplane. Well, it's pretty obvious isn't it -- if you just turn your shoulders, and hips without lifting your arms, then the club will go under plane, i.e. just go around the body.
One of the issues with right forearm takeaway for the swinger is if your bring the club up with right forearm, you tend to bring it back down using your arms also, which you clearly don't want if you're a swinger.
One of the issues with right forearm takeaway for the swinger is if your bring the club up with right forearm, you tend to bring it back down using your arms also, which you clearly don't want if you're a swinger.
Forgive my monumental ignorance but, I have never understood how an object that is raised up by the arms can get itself back down again without those same arms being the prime movers.
The arms take the club back, in and up whilst the body responds to the motion involved. Likewise, the arms bring the club back down, out and forward, again with the body responding to the motion.
If you don't use your arms how in the name of G.O.L.F are you going to get the clubhead down into and through the ball, irrespective of whether you swing or hit?
The Shoulders can turn on an inclined plane ....YES...that means there is both horizontal and vertical motion that produces inclined motion...thus providing some "LIFTING" and "Lowering"...however the right forearm pick-up is the real magic...
Right forearm pick -up ....Kind like....Pickin up the cell phone....Put it back down....Not straight up and down...
Interesting questions and answers, guys. We "west coasters" try to get those gyroscopic forces going right from the start. Pivot, pivot, pivot. Drag, drag, drag.
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Originally Posted by tongzilla
One can use right forearm takeaway for both swingers and hitters, but if the person has no real preferences, then I think the pivot oriented takeaway is better for the swinger.
A reason why this pivot takeaway has had a bad rep recently is because if your hands are not educated, it will take the club underplane. Well, it's pretty obvious isn't it -- if you just turn your shoulders, and hips without lifting your arms, then the club will go under plane, i.e. just go around the body.
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Hey Tong!
Can you elaborate? I think a pivot oriented backswing and educated hands are kinda conflicting but I may be misinterpreting….
Originally Posted by tongzilla
One of the issues with right forearm takeaway for the swinger is if your bring the club up with right forearm, you tend to bring it back down using your arms also, which you clearly don't want if you're a swinger.
Sorry to seem like I am singling you out, I’m not! But…I don’t get it – if the hands do in fact control the pivot, doesn’t this negate your concern? Just curious.
Last edited by phillygolf : 12-16-2005 at 12:47 AM.
One can use right forearm takeaway for both swingers and hitters, but if the person has no real preferences, then I think the pivot oriented takeaway is better for the swinger.
A reason why this pivot takeaway has had a bad rep recently is because if your hands are not educated, it will take the club underplane. Well, it's pretty obvious isn't it -- if you just turn your shoulders, and hips without lifting your arms, then the club will go under plane, i.e. just go around the body.
One of the issues with right forearm takeaway for the swinger is if your bring the club up with right forearm, you tend to bring it back down using your arms also, which you clearly don't want if you're a swinger.
Don't believe the above assumption in the last paragraph is correct! Just look to the Magic of the Right Forearm and Tomasello videos...remember, with TGM there is more than one way to strike a golf ball effectively.
As a swinger...i don't like RFP as my entire takeaway option. Works for monty and couples, but i don't feel like i can mash it with a pivot takeaway.
Also i don't like a true shoulder turn takeaway either because it takes the club too inside on the backswing and since i don't "shift" on the downswing, i tend to get underplane or swing too much inside/out on the downswing.
So i use more of a "hybrid" takeaway that includes both a RFP and a STT. I use the STT for first few feet of the swing and then i immediately fold my right arm and bring everything to the end.
It's all about choices
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the hands control the pivot even in hitting.i use right forearm tracing and i am a swinger.start down is controlled by your aiming point.get your dowels out if you need some clarification.hopefuuly this will help.aslso see yodas video.probably the best golf lesson anyone will ever receive
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