So why shouldn't/can't (whichever it is) a Hitter use a Snap Release Ted?
This is interesting.
Does it apply only for Hitting...or just Angled Hinges of any kind? or Single Wrist Action?
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-Paul
Some would say that Homer never wanted to be pinned down about saying what could and could not happen. He wanted to keep the versatility and to keep the book universally applicable. For those reasons, I don't fault him. I think I can speak for myself and Yoda with regard to this topic. Homer did list two distinct patterns: 12-1 and 12-2. Whether you want to call it a method or a system, I could care less. The fact is: THIS STUFF WORKS!!! These patterns do have some interchangeable parts. But, in the component catalogue, you find components that are different for hitting versus swinging. If I assume that Homer was an incredibly gifted man (which I do), I also have to assume that he had his reasons for inclusion and exclusion of components in the two (recommended) patterns.
The pitch stroke for example, which arguably has the worst picture in the book representing the stroke, fits swinging and not hitting. The reason that the elbow is closer to the ball during release is not because you're trying to drive your elbow as deep into impact as possible (it's being taught because of the picture). But, it's because the flying wedges remain in tact and the left palm remains on plane for uncocking and rolling in snap release. If the right forearm flying wedge supports the aft side of the primary lever, the elbow has to be in a more forward position (pitch) when using a snap release. You've prepared from the top (end) for delivery line uncocking, and for delivery line roll. By going to end, you've loaded the pressure on top of the shaft, not on the aft side for hitting. It was the understanding of the interrelationships of the components that opened my eyes to Homer's genius. Is that as clear as mud?
I think I get most of it. Had to read a few times but I think I get the jist.
I think I can basically understand why by trying Standard Wrist Action/Pitch vs. Single/Punch (just did a few slow-motion Down Strokes).....and for both, holding the Release off until as late as I can....
It starts to feel uncomfortable much earler with the Single/Punch combo.
Some would say that Homer never wanted to be pinned down about saying what could and could not happen. He wanted to keep the versatility and to keep the book universally applicable. For those reasons, I don't fault him. I think I can speak for myself and Yoda with regard to this topic. Homer did list two distinct patterns: 12-1 and 12-2. Whether you want to call it a method or a system, I could care less. The fact is: THIS STUFF WORKS!!! These patterns do have some interchangeable parts. But, in the component catalogue, you find components that are different for hitting versus swinging. If I assume that Homer was an incredibly gifted man (which I do), I also have to assume that he had his reasons for inclusion and exclusion of components in the two (recommended) patterns.
The pitch stroke for example, which arguably has the worst picture in the book representing the stroke, fits swinging and not hitting. The reason that the elbow is closer to the ball during release is not because you're trying to drive your elbow as deep into impact as possible (it's being taught because of the picture). But, it's because the flying wedges remain in tact and the left palm remains on plane for uncocking and rolling in snap release. If the right forearm flying wedge supports the aft side of the primary lever, the elbow has to be in a more forward position (pitch) when using a snap release. You've prepared from the top (end) for delivery line uncocking, and for delivery line roll. By going to end, you've loaded the pressure on top of the shaft, not on the aft side for hitting. It was the understanding of the interrelationships of the components that opened my eyes to Homer's genius. Is that as clear as mud?
Luke,
In your opinion is the Snap Release the Swinger's exclusive domain? Also, do you think the Snap Release is better suited to Horizontal Hinge Action?
You have posted some SUPADOOPA stuff on lag PRESSURE (I will never separate these words again!). I have been an unsuspecting casualty caught in the friendly fire of "accumulator lag" and "holding angles." I have a tendency to hold-on for dear life with the #2 Accumlator and am also a chicken to let the #3 Accumulator "do it's thang."
Do you have a distinct feel of #3 Swivel after the Angled Hinge Motion is executed?
I'm with you. I don't get how people could say that's a "Golfing Machine Swing" or that it's a method. They must have skipped Chapter 10. It's ALL in there . . . I mean every last bit.
Thanks!
B
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In your opinion is the Snap Release the Swinger's exclusive domain? Also, do you think the Snap Release is better suited to Horizontal Hinge Action?
You have posted some SUPADOOPA stuff on lag PRESSURE (I will never separate these words again!). I have been an unsuspecting casualty caught in the friendly fire of "accumulator lag" and "holding angles." I have a tendency to hold-on for dear life with the #2 Accumlator and am also a chicken to let the #3 Accumulator "do it's thang."
Do you have a distinct feel of #3 Swivel after the Angled Hinge Motion is executed?
I'm with you. I don't get how people could say that's a "Golfing Machine Swing" or that it's a method. They must have skipped Chapter 10. It's ALL in there . . . I mean every last bit.
Thanks!
B
1st 2 questions:Yes and yes. It's a big deal that the pressure for the swinger is loaded on the top of the shaft and the pressure for the hitter is loaded on the back of the shaft. In swinging the feel of the #3 pressure point is so different than what I feel in hitting. It gets to the same place at impact, but it rotates from top to aft very quickly. I have the feeling of the aft side support all the way from the top. That's why I find it so outrageous when people claim to jump back and forth between hitting and swinging when playing a round of golf. In other words, what they're claiming is that they have the ability to change ten components from swing to swing with no mulligan. And I thought that I had a lot of thinking to do.
The #3 pressure point for me feels like a constant and deliberate rotation from the top. As it slowly turned to the top, it also slowly rolls in the downstroke. The swivel strictly involves the forearm, where the hinge action is the total arm (my words). As far as the swivel, I do have a finish swivel that has it's distinct feel AFTER impact. Holding on for dear life is not the feel of angled hinging, although it's the way I was previously taught. It's the bridge to the finish for hitting and swinging.
1st 2 questions:Yes and yes. It's a big deal that the pressure for the swinger is loaded on the top of the shaft and the pressure for the hitter is loaded on the back of the shaft. In swinging the feel of the #3 pressure point is so different than what I feel in hitting. It gets to the same place at impact, but it rotates from top to aft very quickly. I have the feeling of the aft side support all the way from the top. That's why I find it so outrageous when people claim to jump back and forth between hitting and swinging when playing a round of golf. In other words, what they're claiming is that they have the ability to change ten components from swing to swing with no mulligan. And I thought that I had a lot of thinking to do.
The #3 pressure point for me feels like a constant and deliberate rotation from the top. As it slowly turned to the top, it also slowly rolls in the downstroke. The swivel strictly involves the forearm, where the hinge action is the total arm (my words). As far as the swivel, I do have a finish swivel that has it's distinct feel AFTER impact. Holding on for dear life is not the feel of angled hinging, although it's the way I was previously taught. It's the bridge to the finish for hitting and swinging.
Are you presently swinging or hitting?
On the fence . . .
I strictly hit after my swamp session. And then went back to Swinging because my elbow wants to work to Pitch (Annikan says I have "sick" Pitch, not quite "perverted" pitch) naturally. But the ball is going everywhere right now. So I'm trying to figure out what pattern is going to work best for me. My grip is also pretty Turned (10-2-D style).
So I guess I need to "un-Pitch" a bit and also increase my Axis Tilt. I tend to lean into it with my upper body.
But the ball is going everywhere right now. So I'm trying to figure out what pattern is going to work best for me.
Colonel,
The ball going "everywhere" indicates erratic Execution (3-F-6). And erratic Execution almost always means Throwaway and its loss of Rhythm. Other than the compliant Ball behavior, the visual clues are Over-Acceleration, Quitting and the trademark Bent Left Wrist (6-D-0). In short, your Mind has left your Hands and has localized in the Club and Ball. All this must be reversed.
Time to break out the ol' wet mop and s-l-o-w-l-y drag it through a simulated Impact...over and over. As you do, repeat Execution's mantra:
Deliberate.
Positive.
And...
Heavy.
In real time, during your Address Routine and especially from the Top, use your imagination to capture the correct Feel of Clubhead Lag Pressure:
The ball going "everywhere" indicates erratic Execution (3-F-6). And erratic Execution almost always means Throwaway and its loss of Rhythm. Other than the compliant Ball behavior, the visual clues are Over-Acceleration, Quitting and the trademark Bent Left Wrist (6-D-0). In short, your Mind has left your Hands and has localized in the Club and Ball. All this must be reversed.
Time to break out the ol' wet mop and s-l-o-w-l-y drag it through a simulated Impact...over and over. As you do, repeat Execution's mantra:
Deliberate.
Positive.
And...
Heavy.
In real time, during your Address Routine and especially from the Top, use your imagination to capture the correct Feel of Clubhead Lag Pressure:
Thanks for the response, Ted. Sounds like a good exercise. And I think I'm all clear on left wrist cock for hitters.
I have one follow up question, what changes should I make to my lower body/hip movement at transition and the beginning of the downswing now that I am trying to hit rather than swing? In other words, what are the key features of the hitters' lower body motion at transition? I realize this is an open-ended question, but any advice would be appreciated. Thanks again.
Thanks for the response, Ted. Sounds like a good exercise. And I think I'm all clear on left wrist cock for hitters.
I have one follow up question, what changes should I make to my lower body/hip movement at transition and the beginning of the downswing now that I am trying to hit rather than swing? In other words, what are the key features of the hitters' lower body motion at transition? I realize this is an open-ended question, but any advice would be appreciated. Thanks again.
Read 10-14-B and 10-15-B. 10-14-B will be the change in the 7th edition. It's a very important change. And I've heard it in some audios of the Master classes that Homer did. In a nutshell, if you're going to trace a straight line, you must slide in startdown.
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