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Old 12-29-2005, 02:21 AM
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Ted,

I NEVER teach a double shift....I DO allow it. Big difference.

You missed one important point, the guy from Louisiana could have made you a better player than the one who wouldn't adapt.

You see, that's IS the debate (and where your former teacher went wrong)

Adjust until it works or not.

Let the IMPERATIVES dictate the components.

Oh yeah, one day I'll show you how to fade it with a flat left wrist finish swivel.

No problem....IF you know how to teach.
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:48 AM
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The Correct Finish Swivel
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The only area that I heard from you and that I would have a real problem implementing was the exaggerated finish swivel that had the clubface laying horizontal to the ground. I think that's a good thing for someone that steers to try to do, but I wouldn't have them do it in reality.
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Oh yeah, one day I'll show you how to fade it with a flat left wrist finish swivel.
Ted Fort teaches the correct Finish Swivel every day. He teaches that the Wrists rotate into a 'parallel to the Plane' position after the Follow-Through. And that Plane is Inclined, not Horizontal (4-D-0).
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Old 12-29-2005, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
Ted Fort teaches the correct Finish Swivel every day. He teaches that the Wrists rotate into a 'parallel to the Plane' position after the Follow-Through. And that Plane is Inclined, not Horizontal (4-D-0).
Really?

How 'bout that!
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Old 12-29-2005, 11:49 AM
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Old 12-29-2005, 11:56 AM
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Moving or Rotating?
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Looks like Tiger's spine is closer to the target in frames 3 & 4? Then the patented Bobbing. But Eldrick's got MAJORs and Bucket's got a MAJOR addiction to chicken and taters. So what can you do?
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:26 PM
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I like annikan skywalker rear view. To me that is easier to see what is what regarding moving and rotation.

Does Tiger set up with his shoulders open somewhat to the target line? I couldn't quickly find a picture if he did or not.

None the less I think it shows the head rotation effect.

The hip rotation/slide on the backstroke

And the leg action on down and follow through. Boy that left leg really raises the left shoulder, changes the axis tilt.

Thought it was interesting his head never gets back to the position (alignment/orientation) that the had at address till the ball is well away. The second frame is closer to the impact position than the first.
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:20 PM
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Here are two more....

Mac O'Grady



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Old 12-29-2005, 05:33 PM
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Dunno...on Mac

Portable A-Star on Purtzer


Since there is no universal manner or standard sfor all the pics we analyze such as camera height, distance to object, shutter speed, etc..it's hard to have a "controlled" environment that were all seeking...so the arguements will continue to exist until all pictures are take with a "control cube" and done in 3D...so the debate continues..

Lets just analyze them for the way they are..not the way they should be....

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Old 12-29-2005, 07:47 PM
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as- mac's head appears to move slightly forward (toward the target) on the downswing (pic #5 ) and then maybe a bit backwards (pic 7 ), but perhaps this appearance is due to head rotation ... purtzer's head, however, certainly appears to move backwards on the downswing (pics 6&7 ) ... what is the particular significance (if any) to their head movements with respect to contributing to the efficiency of their individual swings. thanks.
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Old 12-29-2005, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mikestloc
The patented bobbing is Tiger Woods' attempt to "seek a position" as Ben would say. If Tiger were to begin with this more face down position to start, the patented bobbing would disappear.
While I'm handing out praise, I also agree with this. It's a very important point.
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