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Old 01-03-2006, 02:38 PM
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The Case Of The Missing Pressure Point
Originally Posted by Rob2197

So a hitter should strive for only a double barrel accumlator 1st & 3rd?

I thought it was triple barrel including wristcock per 12-1-0
In the Hitter's Basic Stroke Pattern (12-1-0), three Accumulators -- #1 (Right Elbow), #2 (Left Wrist) and #3 (Left Hand) -- are driven through only two Pressure Points -- #1 (the heel of the Right Hand against the Left Hand thumb) and #3 (the meaty part of the right forefinger where it contacts the back of the Clubshaft).

During the Start Down, Hitters use the Pivot in conjunction with the Hands resisting the change of direction at the Top to Drive Load (10-19-A) the entire Primary Lever Assembly (the Left Arm and Club) against Pressure Points #1 and #3. Since the Right Elbow is directly behind and supporting this Assembly (6-B-3-0-1), it is likewise Loaded (6-H-0-E #5). This Loaded Lag Pressure with the full support of the Right Forearm and Elbow is then Delivered Down Plane with absolutely no change whatever in the Pressure.

During the Downstroke and Release, the Right Arm drives the Left Arm through Pressure Point #1 (10-11-0-1). Simultaneously, the Right Arm also drives the Clubshaft through Pressure Point #3 (6-C-2-C). Thus, the active drive of the Uncocking Right Elbow (7-1 and 6-B-3-A) against the #3 Pressure Point (10-11-0-3) both Uncocks the Left Wrist (7-3) and Rolls the Left Hand (6-B-3-0). Because Pressure Point #2 (the last three fingers of the Left Hand) is not used to actuate the Left Wrist, its function is reduced to merely holding the Club.

Swingers, however, utilize three Pressure Points when using a Three Accumulator Stroke. Power Accumulator #4 (the Left Arm) is Loaded by the Pivot against Pressure Point #4 (where the Left Arm contacts the side), and this Drag Loading Action (10-19-C) Loads the Secondary Lever Assembly (the Clubshaft only) via the Left Wrist (6-H-0-F #5) through Pressure Point #2. However, this does not result in an active drive of the Clubshaft because Centrifugal Force alone powers the Club (10-11-0). This 'Passive Clubhead Lag' (10-11-0-2) -- the Clubshaft being Pulled lengthwise directly toward the Plane Line (6-C-2-A) -- sets up the Centrifugal chain reaction (6-M-1) that ultimately pulls the Clubhead into its In Line condition (6-C-0-4) of Full Extension (2-P).

In a Maximum Power Pivot Stroke, the Hitter also will use the Pivot to load Pressure Point #4 (as opposed to a Three Accumulator Stroke wherein the Right Shoulder simply provides motion in the Start Down and then acts as the backstop for the driving Right Arm in Release). In which case, there will be a Four Accumulator Stroke. However, the Swinger is best advised to use a Three Accumulator maximum because any attempt to use the Right Arm -- other than to Trace with the Clubhead Lag Pressure and for Extensor Action and its support (through Pressure Point #1) of the Left Arm's Pull of the Clubshaft (not a Powering of the Clubshaft itself) -- will conflict with the Stroke's Centrifugal drive and actually result in a Power Loss, not a Power Gain.
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Old 01-03-2006, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
During the Start Down, Hitters use the Pivot in conjunction with the Hands resisting the change of direction at the Top to Drive Load (10-19-A) the entire Primary Lever Assembly (the Left Arm and Club) against Pressure Points #1 and #3. Since the Right Elbow is directly behind and supporting this Assembly (6-B-3-0-1), it is likewise Loaded (6-H-0-E #5). This Loaded Lag Pressure with the full support of the Right Forearm and Elbow is then Delivered Down Plane with absolutely no change whatever in the Pressure.
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The Hands resisting the change of direction at the Top . . . is this "leaving the hands at the Top?" And the Pivot thus supplies the initial Load to #1, #3 and the Right Elbow?

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Old 01-03-2006, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Collards,

The Hands resisting the change of direction at the Top . . . is this "leaving the hands at the Top?" And the Pivot thus supplies the initial Load to #1, #3 and the Right Elbow?

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I think it means that you need to push against the lag pressure that's accumulated on PP3. The hands want to continue moving up the plane, but you instead start pushing them back downplane - which is drive loading. It's when I'm Swinging that I feel more of a "leaving the hands at the top" sensation. I let PP3 load and then start rotating downplane while letting the clubhead almost feel like it's staying put up there.

Another line from Yoda - "This Loaded Lag Pressure with the full support of the Right Forearm and Elbow is then Delivered Down Plane with absolutely no change whatever in the Pressure" - also stands out at me. I remember him telling me exactly this when I was working on my Hitting stroke. It had never really occurred to me before, but it makes sense. When you reach the Top, don't try to exert more load onto PP3. Whatever you reach the Top with is what you're going to start downplane with. I was always trying to load it some more at the Top and all sorts of problems come from that.
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Old 01-03-2006, 03:13 PM
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I think it means that you need to push against the lag pressure that's accumulated on PP3. The hands want to continue moving up the plane, but you instead start pushing them back downplane - which is drive loading. It's when I'm Swinging that I feel more of a "leaving the hands at the top" sensation. I let PP3 load and then start rotating downplane while letting the clubhead almost feel like it's staying put up there.

Another line from Yoda - "This Loaded Lag Pressure with the full support of the Right Forearm and Elbow is then Delivered Down Plane with absolutely no change whatever in the Pressure" - also stands out at me. I remember him telling me exactly this when I was working on my Hitting stroke. It had never really occurred to me before, but it makes sense. When you reach the Top, don't try to exert more load onto PP3. Whatever you reach the Top with is what you're going to start downplane with. I was always trying to load it some more at the Top and all sorts of problems come from that.
Ahh! So with Swinging it is the Spinning of the Flywheel that loads #3. The rotation throws the Load on #3. Where as with Hitting #3 is already loaded at the Top and not loaded or further loaded at Start Down via Pivot?

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Old 01-03-2006, 03:17 PM
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Loading Actions -- Gettin' Fine Now
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The Hands resisting the change of direction at the Top . . . is this "leaving the hands at the Top?" And the Pivot thus supplies the initial Load to #1, #3 and the Right Elbow?
1. No, "leaving the hands at the Top" refers to the Lower Body leading the Start Down from the Top. "Resisting the change of direction" refers to the Hands deliberately stopping their travel during the last stage of the Backstroke, thus causing the momentum of the Club to load the Pressure Points.

2. Unless the Pivot itself -- specifically the Right Shoulder Turn Thrust -- is actively used to take up the Clubhead's Angular Inertia (the Clubhead Lag / 10-19-A), it supplies only leading motion and thus cannot be considered a Power Source.
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"Resisting the change of direction" refers to the Hands deliberately stopping their travel during the last stage of the Backstroke, thus causing the momentum of the Club to load the Pressure Points.
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Cool! You can see this in your motion very definitely!

Is the "Resisting the change of direction" stopping the hands travel limited to Hitters? Or is this used by Swingers not going to End as well?


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Lag Loading And Assembly Points -- Hitting And Swinging
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Is the "Resisting the change of direction" stopping the hands travel limited to Hitters? Or is this used by Swingers not going to End as well?
"Resisting the Backstroke motion" (7-19-1) is the Hitter's method of Loading the Right Elbow to Drive (10-19-A) the entire Primary Lever Assembly (Left Arm and Club) from the Top (10-21-A). Should he choose to go to the End (10-21-C), he must resist the formidable tendency to then Accelerate the Clubshaft (only) Longitudinally (Pull it lengthwise as if a piece of string) rather than the entire Assembly Radially (Push it from behind as if an Axe Handle). Study 2-K and 7-23.

"Throwing the Club against the Lag Pressure Point" (7-19-3) with the Pivot is the Swinger's method of Loading the Left Wrist to Drag (10-19-C) the Secondary Lever Assembly (the Clubshaft only) from the Top or End (10-21-A/C).

For Full Strokes, Hitters may alternatively use a Downstroke Side Assembly Point (10-21-E). Or, a Downstroke Top Assembly Point (10-21-D) if the inclination toward Longitudinal Acceleration is properly Compensated. Swingers may alternatively use either procedure without concern for an improper Loading due to the chosen Assembly Point.

For Short Strokes, both Hitters and Swingers use the Side Assembly Point (10-21-B).
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"Resisting the Backstroke" is the Hitter's method of Loading the Right Elbow to Drive (7-19-1) the entire Primary Lever Assembly (Left Arm and Club) from the Top (10-21-A). Should he choose to go to the End (10-21-C), he must resist the formidable tendency to then Accelerate the Clubshaft Longitudinally (Pull it lengthwise as if a piece of string) rather than Radially (Push it from behind as if an Axe Handle). Study 2-K and 7-23.
I resembled that remark!
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I'm not sure there's a better Right Forearm Flying Wedge on Tour and it's there at set up to boot.



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I like this ..I post a pic...and you guys go to town on the great discussion...this is a win - win.......Yoda ..don't you dare go back to sleep...keep vomiting this great stuff!!! "Green Vomit" euuuuuuh!!!

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