I think creating and sustaining lag pressue is easier with the base of the neck.
I think staying or getting 'on top' (or behind, if you prefer) of the sweetspot with your #3 pressure point—as in Horizontal Hinging—is easier with the base of the neck.
I think performing ANGLED hinge action or vertical hinge action to be easier with the "through the head" center.
If you bend you plane line too much to the left as a rule, you will find it easier to NOT bend it left with the "base of the neck" center.
If you bend the plane line to the right as a rule, , you will find it easier to NOT bend it right with the "through the head" center.
What do ya'll think?
B,
I have no beef with you. But I think you have this debate thing a bit backwards.
No offense meant here but it seems to me that the burden of proof would be in your court. In your above post you have said "in my opinion" and "I think." You are debating in your AWAY jersey. The book has defined the Stationary Post in 1-L and also the stationary head in 2-0. Mr. Kelley provided his supporting evidence. Seems to me for a true debate you would need to provide your evidence as to the above, not Mathew.
Mr. Kelley has given support for his theory. If you think the base of the neck offers better compression in some instances, we need your science. Please don't call that Mandrin dork though
When you later said in regards to the great pictures Martee made.
This is the first post
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The picture are not in a 'sequence,' so what?
Actually this is absolutely incorrect! They are a sequence and now I fixed the frames 'in photoshop' after being scanned badly, we can see quite clearly that they are a match just how far off this line is...
I would like to keep this thread in this thread, Lynn, sir.
I am looking for an answer of any mechanical validity of what happens to the PATTERN and what happens to the club in both methods and if there are any advantages to either.
In this fresh thread, where I started a topic that I could control—somewhat—I have no problem asking, listening, questioning, etc.
If anyone wishes to put me in a box, this is the box I would like to be in.
....mechanical validity....no tricks, no obscure quotes, no tour player opinion...
Mathew nice work but as I sit here ready to go to bed, one has to ask oneself the question, Are these the images you want floating around in your head as you go to bed?
I suggest Lynn have you work with a model, how about we have Lynn get you connected up with say Natalie Gulbis and you can do the technical stuff, she can model it?
I made my points in the opening post of this thread...
noone has said anything like this:
If you keep your head still your #3 accumulator angle has less travel in relation to the axis tilt required with the stationary head pivot center (an example).
I will define this 'performance' in the following way:
A. Best able to create and sustain lag pressure
B. Best able to 'draw' a straight plane line
C. Best able to control hinge action
Got it?
Ok.
Here is my OPINION:
I think creating and sustaining lag pressure is easier with the base of the neck.
I think staying or getting 'on top' (or behind, if you prefer) of the sweetspot with your #3 pressure point—as in Horizontal Hinging—is easier with the base of the neck.
I think performing ANGLED hinge action or vertical hinge action to be easier with the "through the head" center.
If you bend you plane line too much to the left as a rule, you will find it easier to NOT bend it left with the "base of the neck" center.
If you bend the plane line to the right as a rule, , you will find it easier to NOT bend it right with the "through the head" center.
What do ya'll think?
Later you asked for
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I am looking for an answer of any mechanical validity of what happens to the PATTERN and what happens to the club in both methods and if there are any advantages to either.
Maybe I have missed something but I still don't understand that if you the stationary center as the Head, why you would not receive all the benefits you claim you have with the stationary neck?
Is there some position for the Head to be in other than inline with the neck that has this benefit?
I definitely see the value in using the base of the skull (the head) over the neck as you don't want this 20 plus lb object flopping around, disrupting your balance, your eye alignment, etc.
The head as a component isn't an active component, or at least isn't suppose to be, so for it have negative results, I would assume that it has become an active disruptive component.
Mechanically, Science, etc. all would support the supposition that anchoring (so to speak, maintaining a central position) at the ends is superior to anchoring away from the ends. It reduces or minimizes the potential for variations, wobbling, etc. while allowing rotational drive to achieve its maximum on a predictable path.
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