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Old 01-07-2006, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Martee
Okay when all is said and done...??

I still have questions that have gone unanswered.

1. This 'Tripod' concept, where is it in the book (I obvously have missed it, bad Martee).

2. This 'Tripod' has been shown as a triangle on photos and diagrams. It is always or at least appears to be drawn as an isosceles triangle (2 sides of equal length, thus placing the apex in the center of the base). Is it really an isosceles triangle?

3. A 'Tripod' indicate 3 legs, where is the third leg? Bi-pod seems to be the percise and correct term or triangle.

4. How did it come about to state the center of the pivot center was to be in middle of the stance? Or was it to be between the two feet (not going to the outside, etc.)?

5. The neck as the pivot center, indicates that the head can move. Is the movement of the head restricted to
a. Rotation around this pivot center point (same as it is with a stationary head)?
b. Back and forth motion with the pivot center point stationary?
c. Side to side motion (Bending ear to shoulder) with the pivot center point stationary?
d. At not time should the head movement, of any kind, move the pivot center point?

6. The Determination of where the pivot center point for either the head or neck is, defined by Impact Fix?

7. In use of either reference points, movement of the pivot center from the Address position to Impact Fix is acceptable? Is it desireable? Is this something that is a personal trait or preferrence of the golfer or golf instructor?

8. The Pivot Center Point can be moved by the pivot and still be considered stationary?

It is difficult to see value in the neck over the head when it is not clear, at least to me, how the neck reference provides something that the head doesn't.

I stated earlier in another thread of some of the benefits of the stationary head
a. Balance factor
b. Visual reference

I am looking for the value, how both accomplish the same, and as you had pointed out in another thread how you have discovered that based on a certain observed characteristics (flight line to the right, etc.) that you select one over the other.

Thanks to all in advance for some replies.
1. Hopefully, it's in the upcoming 7th edition. It's in Homer's notes.

2. It would seem to require a centered head, if it's an isosceles triangle.

3. This is a point that I made with Yoda about six months ago.

I've had the privilege of traveling with Yoda to many of our golf schools around the country. During some of the long flights, I have the opportunity to be grilled (interrogated) about TGM (which I love and requires the wearing of a seatbelt). The questions come a mile a minute. And additionally, I get the opportunity to watch Yoda make his notes about changes that need to be made in the book. I wish that Yoda had been consulted about changes that needed to be made, before the 7th edition hit the presses.

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Old 01-07-2006, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by YodasLuke
1. Hopefully, it's in the upcoming 7th edition. It's in Homer's notes.

2. It would seem to require a centered head, if it's an isosceles triangle.

3. This is a point that I made with Yoda about six months ago.

I've had the privilege of traveling with Yoda to many of our golf schools around the country. During some of the long flights, I have the opportunity to be grilled (interrogated) about TGM (which I love and requires the wearing of a seatbelt). The questions come a mile a minute. And additionally, I get the opportunity to watch Yoda make his notes about changes that need to be made in the book. I wish that Yoda had been consulted about changes that needed to be made, before the 7th edition hit the presses.

Off to some lessons...
Thanks for the insight.

Well unless someone can describe and show this tripod, I hope it didn't make it into the next edition. Without ample text and/or diagram(s), this will be something every anti-TGMer grabs onto and makes a big deal.

Wonder if Homer had a definition in the glossary for this? The current definition of Pivot Center doesn't support this concept.

Thanks again, awaiting answers...
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