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Old 01-18-2006, 01:44 AM
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A Third Way To Zero Power Accumulator #3
Previously, we've discussed two ways to Zero Power Accumulator #3 (the angle formed by the Left Arm and Club).

1. Grip the Club in the cup of the Left Hand.

2. Fully Uncock the Left Wrist (Reverse Wristcock).

There is a third way...

Who knows what it is?

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Old 01-18-2006, 02:38 AM
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Reach out for the ball...
like Moe Norman. I tried it for 3 yrs and it frequently resulted in "fore left!!".
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Old 01-18-2006, 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by pshr

like Moe Norman. [Reach out for the ball.] I tried it for 3 yrs and it frequently resulted in "fore left!!".
Off topic: This site is the best. Outstanding. Thank you all, especially , for your expertise and guidance.
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Thanks for your kind comments, pshr. We've got our first anniversary coming up on the 20th, and as we approach 2,000 members in only one year, we are grateful for what has come, but even more, we are excited by what lies ahead.

Regarding the 'third way' to Zero Power Accumulator #3, sorry ...

Moe's super-extended Left Arm was merely his way of effecting a Left Wrist Uncock (Zero alternative #2).

Still listening...

Who else would have a 'go' at the 'third way' to zero #3?
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Old 01-18-2006, 03:52 AM
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Would number 3 be to Not turn it to the plane.
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Old 01-18-2006, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SwingNorthtoSouth
Would number 3 be to Not turn it to the plane.
Vertical hinging
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Old 01-18-2006, 05:37 PM
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And The Winner Is...
Originally Posted by Thom

Vertical hinging
We have a winner...Thom!

The way to prevent the normal Clubhead Overtaking (of the Hands) while maintaining the Rhythm of the Stroke (Left Arm and Clubshaft In Line) is to use Vertical Hinging. In other words, controlled Steering (Clubface held Square to the Plane Line). And since, by definition, a Cut Shot is any Shot using Vertical Hinging ('regardless of Plane Line or preceding Wrist Action'), the third way to Zero the #3 Accumulator could also be said to be: 'Play a Cut Shot' (2-C-2).

Here are comments that might help clear some fog surrounding the answers of some of the other contenders:

Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Change Grip Type.....10-2-E
Sorry, Annikan, 10-2-E would permit both Horizontal and Angled Hinging, and each of these would produce the #3 Accumulator action and travel.

Originally Posted by tongzilla
10-3-H Paw
Same for you, Tongzilla, the Paw Stroke executed as a Cross Line procedure produces automatic Angled Hinging and its associated #3 Accumulator travel.

Originally Posted by rwh
Use the Strong Double Action Grip (10-2-D). No roll until after impact.
Very close, rwh. But the Strong Double Action Grip can produce any Hinge Action, although it is used most often with Angled Hinging. Here, the Left Wrist remains Turned On Plane through Impact and is executed with the Feel of No Roll. However, this 'No Roll' Feel produces an automatic Angled Hinge Action and a 'Half Roll' of the Clubface. To produce the Vertical Hinge Action required for the Zero #3 Accumulator, the player must execute a Cut Shot. In turn, this mandates a 'Reverse Roll' Feel and a Square Clubface, i.e., 'No Roll.'

Originally Posted by DD639

Then you have to include 10-3-G pick
The Pick Minor Basic Stroke does not exclude #3 Accumulator travel. It specifies only Bent Arms and Forearms On Plane. Used in combination with the Push Basic Stroke, it produces automatic Angled Hinging and #3 Accumulator travel (unless, in the most unusual case, the Right Forearm is positioned parallel to the Plane Line).

Originally Posted by phimaynard

In my opinion, using a vertical hinge action there is no Power Accumulator #3
Right you are, phimaynard. But Thom arrived first on the scene, so the Accumulator Chalice goes to him. I emailed him his due victory congrats just after he posted, but I refrained from a public announcement at that time in order to encourage further participation. You, sir, are hereby awarded a Special Commendation because you had the courage to reiterate his position.

This was fun, everybody, and I think we all learned something -- I know I did. Thanks to all who participated!

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Wow!
I'm REALLY glad I started this little 'ole thread! I had no idea how much I needed to learn!!
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Old 01-18-2006, 10:26 AM
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Try Again, SwingNorthtoSouth!
Originally Posted by SwingNorthtoSouth

Would number 3 be to Not turn it to the plane.
It is true that Turn and Roll emphasize the #3 Accumulator ('Half' Wrist Action per 10-18-C). And eliminating it would minimize the Action. However, it would still be there unless otherwise Zeroed.
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Old 01-18-2006, 06:28 AM
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how about...
Originally Posted by Yoda
Previously, we've discussed two ways to Zero Power Accumulator #3 (the angle formed by the Left Arm and Club).

1. Grip the Club in the cup of the Left Hand.

2. Fully Uncock the Left Wrist (Reverse Wristcock).

There is a third way...

Who knows what it is?

run the club up the inside of the left forearm?
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Old 01-18-2006, 10:30 AM
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Back To The Drawing Board, Milan
Originally Posted by milan

Run the club up the inside of the left forearm?
No, milan. The technique you suggest only helps assure a Flat Left Wrist. And that condition -- whether Visual or Geometric -- is always present in a true #3 Accumulator Roll.
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