Basically, even though the Low Point Plane Line is located on the same Inclined Plane as the Impact Point Plane Line (the one we usually Trace), from the player's perspective, that Low Point Plane Line looks like the Impact Plane Line, hence we have a devastatingly bent Plane Line. The way to break through this illusion is to realise that you are Tracing a line which is under the ground. But why go through all this effort I wonder. Just use the basic Plane Line.
I would disagree that the Low Point Plane Line looks like the Impact Plane line for the simple reason that you would have to be looking down the at the lines at the same angle of the Plane. The golfers traditional position does not place the eyes on the Plane. But if you did look down the plane at that angle, you would only see the one line, as the one would be on top of the other.
Mechanically Tracing the basic plane line (clubshaft plane at impact definition) is what happens in a good golf shot and is what should be used when analyzing the golf stroke. Note the definition of this line IMO needs to be defined at IMPACT or IMPACT FIX, hopefully both are one of the same.
To eliminate the mechanics in the golf stroke, to free up the golfers power, FEEL is the key here. I am sure that most people who first exerperience the plane board discover a new feel, even for partial shots.
This is a case of 'Feels Like' but 'Really Is'.
The more I review TGM, the more I am coming to realize that Homer wasn't explaining mechanics per-se he was explaining the 'Feels Like' of the 'Really Is'. For example the thrust applied cross line for a hitter is a the correct application and feel, but in reality the golf clubs path doesn't have a bent plane line to accomodate this cross line application.
Cotton was definitely on to something when he said the golf stroke was in the hands, Homer was able to translate that and bridge the gap between mechanics and feel.
Obviously I have been slow in my education cause as I look back at my notes, the book, Feel is all over the place in the book. Just because this book has a techincal format and style, it should not be approach or considered that is only a mechanical description, it is or I am coming to the conclusion that is foundation and bridge between the proper mechanics (as defined using geometry and physics) the Feel to accomplish this.
I am not sure that this is the best anology, but here goes. When shooting a wadded up paper into a basket across the room, do you look at the basket, the front rim, the center, or the back rim? You focus on the back and apply the force to push it to the back to get it to drop in the center.
I would disagree that the Low Point Plane Line looks like the Impact Plane line for the simple reason that you would have to be looking down the at the lines at the same angle of the Plane. The golfers traditional position does not place the eyes on the Plane. But if you did look down the plane at that angle, you would only see the one line, as the one would be on top of the other.
Mechanically Tracing the basic plane line (clubshaft plane at impact definition) is what happens in a good golf shot and is what should be used when analyzing the golf stroke. Note the definition of this line IMO needs to be defined at IMPACT or IMPACT FIX, hopefully both are one of the same.
To eliminate the mechanics in the golf stroke, to free up the golfers power, FEEL is the key here. I am sure that most people who first exerperience the plane board discover a new feel, even for partial shots.
This is a case of 'Feels Like' but 'Really Is'.
The more I review TGM, the more I am coming to realize that Homer wasn't explaining mechanics per-se he was explaining the 'Feels Like' of the 'Really Is'. For example the thrust applied cross line for a hitter is a the correct application and feel, but in reality the golf clubs path doesn't have a bent plane line to accomodate this cross line application.
Cotton was definitely on to something when he said the golf stroke was in the hands, Homer was able to translate that and bridge the gap between mechanics and feel.
Obviously I have been slow in my education cause as I look back at my notes, the book, Feel is all over the place in the book. Just because this book has a techincal format and style, it should not be approach or considered that is only a mechanical description, it is or I am coming to the conclusion that is foundation and bridge between the proper mechanics (as defined using geometry and physics) the Feel to accomplish this.
Sigh...you missed my point regarding the Impact/Low Point Plane Line discussion Martee! I'll leave it to Philly to clear up the mess!
By the way, Thrust is always Cross Line (think Right Forearm Angle of Approach and Aiming Point), even for the Swinger. However, Delivery Motion is On Line. Please tell me I haven't opened another can of worms
Sigh...you missed my point regarding the Impact/Low Point Plane Line discussion Martee! I'll leave it to Philly to clear up the mess!
By the way, Thrust is always Cross Line (think Right Forearm Angle of Approach and Aiming Point), even for the Swinger. However, Delivery Motion is On Line. Please tell me I haven't opened another can of worms
Sorry I missed you point, but either my reading or your writing led me to my response.
As for you last statement, I didn't question the application of thrust crossline, I question that the description by itself leads to bent plane lines when a golfer reads crossline. Okay they don't understand the concept, actually the lack a good understanding of the geometry of golf stroke.
Golfers don't bend plane lines cause they think they should, they bend them cause they have been told too or they think they have been told too by some other action in the golf stroke.
Martee, remember that every separate item in the Stroke is properly understood only when learned and mastered separately and its separate identity maintained.
Martee, remember that every separate item in the Stroke is properly understood only when learned and mastered separately and its separate identity maintained.
Lets drop it, This thread has gone sideways enough and I understand that. That wasn't the point or intent of this thread, it was merely to clear up a misconception that runs ramptant on these forums regarding the Inclined Plane and Analyzing the golf stroke.
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