For the Hitter's application, start from the Swinger's position Luke has described above. Now, Roll the Left Wrist slightly (to the left toward the vertical). Allow the Right Forearm Flying Wedge to likewise Roll. Now observe the position of the Right Elbow. You are in Punch.
In other words, Single Wrist Action will naturally bring your Elbow to a Punch position, while Standard Wrist Action will naturally bring it to a Pitch position.
Another reason for the Swinger to Start Up Swivel.
...Single Wrist Action will naturally bring your Elbow to a Punch position, while Standard Wrist Action will naturally bring it to a Pitch position.
Yes, and this is one of the very few times I would recommend usng a given photo to reference a component other than that being illustrated (2-R).
Compare the Elbow postion in Photo 10-18-A (Standard Wrist Action) and the Elbow Position in 10-18-C (Single Wrist Action). [IMPORTANT: You must use Photo 10-18-D for 10-18-C because the photos are transposed.] The Turned Left Wrist of Standard Action has enabled the Elbow to 'lead' deeper into Release Interval (Pitch Basic Stroke) than the Vertical Left Wrist of Single Wrist Action (Punch Basic Stroke).
The untrained eye may not at first be able to detect an appreciable difference betweeen the two. But it is there. To help see it, check out the space between the Forearms in the Single Wrist Action photo as the Right Forearm supports the back-of-the-Shaft Loading (instead of Standard Wrist Action's top-of-the-Shaft Loading.
The Turned Left Wrist of Standard Action has enabled the Elbow to 'lead' deeper into Release Interval (Pitch Basic Stroke) than the Vertical Left Wrist of Single Wrist Action (Punch Basic Stroke).
Since the Pitch Stroke is conducive to greater Trigger Delay, we observe Swingers having more of a "true" Snap Release than Hitters.
And everything else being equal, that means greater Clubhead Speed.
Another point for the Swinger on my Swinger/Hitter Scorecard.
I'm with Tong...Hitting for me personally ruined my game.... from driving it 285 - 305 yards with Swinging and relatively acccurate...(at least tree line to tree line) and a +1.6 handicap ....to Hitting it straight down the middle 245 - 265 yards and playing the mini-tours as a legit 4 handicap...Boy that's really nice when you're out there trying to make a living...At least now I understand "You can't drive gently and carry a big stick....
The deal is the right elbow location/ right forearm position to the loading procedure and it's wrist action....
Any of you notice a big difference in distance with Swinging with single wrist action vs. standard wrist action ...I Do!!!!
I wish only that I knew then what I know now...about the Hitters cheat sheet...The Right Forearm's own Angle of Approach
BTW ...my handicap was as low as +2.2 this summer using both machines...perhaps it's time to go back out to try it again...NOT...I'd make more on the lesson tee!!! Plus my wife and kids would leave me!!!
Last edited by annikan skywalker : 01-26-2006 at 10:20 AM.
I'm with Tong...Hitting for me personally ruined my game.... ...I Do!!!!
I wish only that I knew then what I know now...about the Hitters cheat sheet...The Right Forearm's own Angle of Approach
BTW ...my handicap was as low as +2.2 this summer using both machines...
Annikan,
I think I understand the thrust of your post -- no pun intended -- but just for clarification...
When you said "Hitting...ruined my game," did you mean that the Hitting procedure itself was the problem or that it was your less than full understanding (at that time) of how to apply it?
I think I understand the thrust of your post -- no pun intended -- but just for clarification...
When you said "Hitting...ruined my game," did you mean that the Hitting procedure itself was the problem or that it was your less than full understanding (at that time) of how to apply it?
The less than full understanding...but even with a better understanding ...The fact is...I am shorter as a hitter than a swinger...it's easier for me to generate a transfer of momentum than to thrust with with my right arm plus the backstop of pivot thrust....perhaps it has more to do with my release motions...
I feel that style is important for certain shots with my own game...sometimes I like to use hitting for aggressive punch shots or chip shots....but I like to swing everything else....irons, woods, pitches,lobs, bunker play, and putting...
I used to drive with my putting style and I always had good line.....poor pace...Now I drag or swing my putter.....great pace.....decent line...
Personal Preference ..that's all..You know.."feel the force and use the force!"....
Perhaps if I had Yoda on the bag ..back in the hitting days..the outcome would be different.....
I believe hitting to be a very superior procedure for some...but it's my Learned Pattern...NOT my "Instinctive Pattern"...
My 21 month old daughter ....instictively uses a right forearm flying wedge with the #3PP located beautifully on the aft side witht the right forfinger triggered like a '?" on the club....she always demonstrates...radial acceleration with her plastic club...her 7 month old sister is still a mystery waitng in the wings...Mom has always used drag loading...BTW..she's not only the best looking...she's got the best looking swing in the family....
So Mom = Drag Loading
Dad = Drag Loading
1st daughter = Drive Loading
2nd Daughter = ?
Do you believe in the probablity of DNA?
I do....LOL
But the fact still remains the handicap lowered as soon as I went back to my lifelong personal style of swinging......
Last edited by annikan skywalker : 01-27-2006 at 01:06 AM.
Any of you notice a big difference in distance with Swinging with single wrist action vs. standard wrist action ...I Do!!!!
Yes, there is a difference in distance between the two for me, however my accuracy and distance control is slightly better with single wrist action on the short irons and wedges and it is easier for me to 'call the shot' and control trajectory with single. My personal trend is to fall into angled hinge on shorter shots anyway (sometimes even when I don't want to, which is the main thing I have to come back to in my pattern if I am trying to swing, the finish swivel).
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I'm with Tong...Hitting for me personally ruined my game.... from driving it 285 - 305 yards with Swinging and relatively acccurate...(at least tree line to tree line) and a +1.6 handicap ....to Hitting it straight down the middle 245 - 265 yards and playing the mini-tours as a legit 4 handicap...Boy that's really nice when you're out there trying to make a living...At least now I understand "You can't drive gently and carry a big stick....
The deal is the right elbow location/ right forearm position to the loading procedure and it's wrist action....
Any of you notice a big difference in distance with Swinging with single wrist action vs. standard wrist action ...I Do!!!!
I wish only that I knew then what I know now...about the Hitters cheat sheet...The Right Forearm's own Angle of Approach
BTW ...my handicap was as low as +2.2 this summer using both machines...perhaps it's time to go back out to try it again...NOT...I'd make more on the lesson tee!!! Plus my wife and kids would leave me!!!
Swinging ruined my game!!!! So, now were even!!!
In reality, not knowing what the heck I was doing when I was Swinging was the problem. I would be a much better Swinger, now.
Hitting is the road for me, though. My distances are much better when Hitting, and I'm much more accurate. I'm about 6 mph slower with Swinging. But, if I practiced it, I think I could get them in the same range.
-- but just for clarification...
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