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Old 01-26-2006, 01:13 PM
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The point here is no matter what Delivery Line is chosen, there must always be a slide first - for hitters, a cross line motion to stay ahead of centrifugal force per [B
2-L-1[/b]; for swingers parallel to the plane line - else there will be a hip-elbow collision which then necessitates a roundhouse (7-13).
If a player uses an impact address (with right forearm on plane) and no slide on the backswing, will a hip slide on the downswing drop the right elbow below plane?
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Old 01-26-2006, 10:23 PM
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If a player uses an impact address (with right forearm on plane) and no slide on the backswing, will a hip slide on the downswing drop the right elbow below plane?
Hi armourall,

Sounds like you are a hitter.

The purpose of a hip slide is not to drop the right elbow or raise it. I can change my plane angle without any hip slide. It is a Hand Action per 9-3 and not a Pivot Action.

The purpose of a hip slide is to shift the shoulder axis so that right elbow does not collide with the hips.

When there is no collision, an inside out impact will be the result.

When there is no attempt to prevent a collision, there will be no roundhousing of the shoulders and no running out of right arm.
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Old 01-27-2006, 01:26 PM
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Hi armourall,

Sounds like you are a hitter.

The purpose of a hip slide is not to drop the right elbow or raise it. I can change my plane angle without any hip slide. It is a Hand Action per 9-3 and not a Pivot Action.

The purpose of a hip slide is to shift the shoulder axis so that right elbow does not collide with the hips.

When there is no collision, an inside out impact will be the result.

When there is no attempt to prevent a collision, there will be no roundhousing of the shoulders and no running out of right arm.
It seems like I agree with everything you've said, but I don't know if it completely cleared things up for me. Let me ask this way: Yes, you can change planes without tilting the axis, but... can you tilt the axis without changing planes?
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It seems like I agree with everything you've said, but I don't know if it completely cleared things up for me. Let me ask this way: Yes, you can change planes without tilting the axis, but... can you tilt the axis without changing planes?
Yes. If you don't tilt then odds are you WILL NOT achieve Zero Shift.
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Yes. If you don't tilt then odds are you WILL NOT achieve Zero Shift.
Took the words right out of my mouth...
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