Intricacies of Hitting and Swinging

[ChrisNZ]

Coophitter and DG,

Thanks for your replies!

In times of golfing depression or fogginess (but not only then!) I find the Tomasello stuff very helpful!!! Would love to read some Vardon, and also Joe Norwood's book, although it is hard to track down without paying big dollars.

Coophitter, sorry for my lack of anatomical nous, but what is 'radial' uncocking? Is there a feel of the back of the right hand going towards the ground, or is it more a feel of the right hand karate chopping?

Thanks again,
Chris

[coophitter]

DG and ChrisNZ,

On day one with Tomasello, he directed me to the last paragraph of 4-D-1 on page 59 and the last paragraph of 7-3 on page 93 in the sixth edition. I brought a brand new book with me to use during my study with him and those passages are the only words I highlighted in the entire book as they represent the only references Tomasello made to the book that he said I needed to study and commit to memory. I did however bookmark 6-B-3-O-1 on pg. 71 per Mr. Kelley and applied the same study and commitment to memory. I'm sure Tomasello would have told me more to study in the book had I not been a GSEB already and showed him my GSEB book that has 25 labeled bookmark tabs and seems to have as many or more highlighted or underlined words as the words that aren't.

As to your question Chris, radial acceleration simply means applying pressure to the distal or far end of something that you can cause to move in a circle. Think of pushing a child on a swing, playing tetherball, or Wheel of Fortune. In TGM radial acceleration means applying linear right arm thrust through the #1 pressure point against the distal, flat wristed, cocked fist of the inert primary lever(left arm). Centripetal force will kick in immediately to pull and divert the primary lever into a circular motion on an inclined plane. Kelley describes it in 2-K as Centripetal Force diverting Linear Force into a rotating motion. The uncocking of the elbow facilitates the fastest and most precise transfer of this linear right arm force to the cocked left fist even if a kinetic chain of force has flowed into the elbow from the ground up.

As to your karate chop question, I think if you read 6-B-3-O-1 carefully you may come to understand that the uncocking of the right forearm vertically from the top does feel like a karate chop to some but the ulnar side blade of the left hand replaces the ulnar side blade of the right hand as the front of the chop that knifes through the air and can slash through wooden planks or break a brick that gets in its way. The right hand palm should start and remain perpendicular to this left hand blade throughout the motion. Its easier to demonstrate than to talk about and I'm sure Tomasello does this in one of his videos on the site, but I haven't been able to access them for some reason. I wonder if anyone else is having problems with the videos and can help me. Thanks

[Delaware Golf]

DG and ChrisNZ,

On day one with Tomasello, he directed me to the last paragraph of 4-D-1 on page 59 and the last paragraph of 7-3 on page 93 in the sixth edition. I brought a brand new book with me to use during my study with him and those passages are the only words I highlighted in the entire book as they represent the only references Tomasello made to the book that he said I needed to study and commit to memory. I did however bookmark 6-B-3-O-1 on pg. 71 per Mr. Kelley and applied the same study and commitment to memory. I'm sure Tomasello would have told me more to study in the book had I not been a GSEB already and showed him my GSEB book that has 25 labeled bookmark tabs and seems to have as many or more highlighted or underlined words as the words that aren't.

As to your question Chris, radial acceleration simply means applying pressure to the distal or far end of something that you can cause to move in a circle. Think of pushing a child on a swing, playing tetherball, or Wheel of Fortune. In TGM radial acceleration means applying linear right arm thrust through the #1 pressure point against the distal, flat wristed, cocked fist of the inert primary lever(left arm). Centripetal force will kick in immediately to pull and divert the primary lever into a circular motion on an inclined plane. Kelley describes it in 2-K as Centripetal Force diverting Linear Force into a rotating motion. The uncocking of the elbow facilitates the fastest and most precise transfer of this linear right arm force to the cocked left fist even if a kinetic chain of force has flowed into the elbow from the ground up.

As to your karate chop question, I think if you read 6-B-3-O-1 carefully you may come to understand that the uncocking of the right forearm vertically from the top does feel like a karate chop to some but the ulnar side blade of the left hand replaces the ulnar side blade of the right hand as the front of the chop that knifes through the air and can slash through wooden planks or break a brick that gets in its way. The right hand palm should start and remain perpendicular to this left hand blade throughout the motion. Its easier to demonstrate than to talk about and I'm sure Tomasello does this in one of his videos on the site, but I haven't been able to access them for some reason. I wonder if anyone else is having problems with the videos and can help me. Thanks

Coophitter,

Thanks for the expert insight to the Tomasello lessons...

A suggestion for your problem in viewing the Tomasello videos...trying downloading the videos to your computer by right clicking on the file and then click on "Save Target as..." with the Tomasello letter videos I had to use this method...

...maybe Bagger or one of the many computer experts on this forum can provide some additional suggestions.

DG

[ChrisNZ]

DG and ChrisNZ,

As to your question Chris, radial acceleration simply means applying pressure to the distal or far end of something that you can cause to move in a circle. Think of pushing a child on a swing, playing tetherball, or Wheel of Fortune. In TGM radial acceleration means applying linear right arm thrust through the #1 pressure point against the distal, flat wristed, cocked fist of the inert primary lever(left arm). Centripetal force will kick in immediately to pull and divert the primary lever into a circular motion on an inclined plane. Kelley describes it in 2-K as Centripetal Force diverting Linear Force into a rotating motion. The uncocking of the elbow facilitates the fastest and most precise transfer of this linear right arm force to the cocked left fist even if a kinetic chain of force has flowed into the elbow from the ground up.

As to your karate chop question, I think if you read 6-B-3-O-1 carefully you may come to understand that the uncocking of the right forearm vertically from the top does feel like a karate chop to some but the ulnar side blade of the left hand replaces the ulnar side blade of the right hand as the front of the chop that knifes through the air and can slash through wooden planks or break a brick that gets in its way. The right hand palm should start and remain perpendicular to this left hand blade throughout the motion.

That is a tremendous description! Will try this as soon as my lunch hour rolls around - the second paragraph above is a real fog clearer for me and shifts my understanding somewhat.

Great to have you on the site.

Chris

[Rhythm]

"Hold the club firmly with the last three fingers of the left hand, let the left arm act as a guide and whack the hell out of the ball with the right hand."

"The more you can get your hands ahead of the clubface in the downswing, the more power you can apply with the right hand."

Some quotes from Tommy Armour's book How to Play Your Best Golf All The Time.


CoopHitter don't be a stranger on the site I enjoyed reading your posts.

[annikan skywalker]

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[6bmike]

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hahahah. It's okay. Call it what you may but the more you push the more you Hit. The more you pull the more you Swing. It is not important to the geometric look of the stroke pattern.

[Rhythm]

Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
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Here we Go!!!!


I'm just trying to get Delaware Golf fired up again.

Pulling is swinging, pushing is hittting, I agree. But obviously there are people out there right arm swinging whether it is supposed to be dangerous to your elbow or not.

[Delaware Golf]

Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Uh...

Oh....

Here we Go!!!!


I'm just trying to get Delaware Golf fired up again.

Pulling is swinging, pushing is hittting, I agree. But obviously there are people out there right arm swinging whether it is supposed to be dangerous to your elbow or not.

In the Wizard of OZ it was:

There's no place like Home
There's no place like Home
There's no place like Home

In TGM it's:

There is more than one way to Swing a golf club
There is more than one way to Swing a golf club
There is more than one way to Swing a golf club

followed by...

"it is possible to "Swing" a club with either arm"
"it is possible to "Swing" a club with either arm"
"it is possible to "Swing" a club with either arm"

1-F Homer Kelley...

See page 235 "Hitting and Swinging"...


DG

[Rhythm]

Good response DG.