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Old 02-12-2006, 09:15 PM
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Differentiating the Fine Points of Angled Hinge Action
Originally Posted by johngolf33
In 10-10-C Homer states that "Closing and Layback" holds the Flat Left Wrist vertical to the Inclined Plane and that this is identical to the paddle-Wheel motion of the straightening Right Arm but is a superior prodedure (1-F). Why would you teach turning the clubface to lie on the Plane at the Top and paddle-Wheeling it down to impact if Homer thought the no-roll of Angled Hinge Action greatly simpifies Hitting? Is the paddle-Wheel motion of the straightening Right Arm more dynamic since it uses more #3 Accumulator than the no-roll of Angled Hinge Action? Just curious.
Three Points:

1. The No-Roll Feel of Angled Hinging produces a Half-Roll of the Clubface through Impact. Only the Reverse Roll Feel of Vertical Hinging produces a No-Roll (Square alignment) of the Clubface (7-10).

2. Both the Hitter using Angled Hinging Wrist Action (10-18-C-2) and the Swinger using Standard Wrist Action (10-18-A) arrive at The Top of the Stroke with the Hands Turned on Plane. The difference is that the Hitter got there gradually via the normal Body Turn and Arm Swing whereas the Swinger got there early via the Start Up Swivel. In other words, for Hitters, the Wrists arrive Turned, but they are never independently 'Turned.' Swingers, on the other hand, deliberately Turn their Wrists to the Plane in Start Up and leave them there as they travel Up Plane during the Backstroke.

3. The Paddle-Wheel Right Arm straightening produces the Paddle Wheel Flat Left Wrist Angled Hinge Action (2-G and 6-B-3-0). Hence, the #3 Accumulator Roll is the same no matter whether the player focuses on the Right Arm and its straightening or the Left Wrist and its Hinge Action. However, the Flat Left Wrist exercises the overall control of the Clubface Alignment (Geometry) that has been produced by the straightening Right Arm (Physics). Hence...

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Old 02-12-2006, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
Three Points:

1. The No-Roll Feel of Angled Hinging produces a Half-Roll of the Clubface through Impact. Only the Reverse Roll Feel of Vertical Hinging produces a No-Roll (Square alignment) of the Clubface (7-10).

2. Both the Hitter using Angled Hinging Wrist Action (10-18-C-2) and the Swinger using Standard Wrist Action (10-18-A) arrive at The Top of the Stroke with the Hands Turned on Plane. The difference is that the Hitter got there gradually via the normal Body Turn and Arm Swing whereas the Swinger got there early via the Start Up Swivel. In other words, for Hitters, the Wrists arrive Turned, but they are never independently 'Turned.' Swingers, on the other hand, deliberately Turn their Wrists to the Plane in Start Up and leave them there as they travel Up Plane during the Backstroke.

3. The Paddle-Wheel Right Arm straightening produces the Paddle Wheel Flat Left Wrist Angled Hinge Action (2-G and 6-B-3-0). Hence, the #3 Accumulator Roll is the same no matter whether the player focuses on the Right Arm and its straightening or the Left Wrist and its Hinge Action. However, the Flat Left Wrist exercises the overall control of the Clubface Alignment (Geometry) that has been produced by the straightening Right Arm (Physics). Hence...

Precision G.O.L.F. Mechanics: Structure (Feel through Educated Hands) controlling the Geometry of a Force.
Thanks Oh Jedi Master. I am clear on your explanation, and it is spot on with what you taught me in the swamp. However I am still vexed about exactly what Homer is saying in 10-10-C is identical to paddle-Wheel but is a superior procedure. Is he talking about Left Wrist control is superior to trying to control the clubface with right arm straightening? Secondly, would you ever recommend having a shut clubface at the top with vertical hinging to Hit?
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Old 02-12-2006, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by johngolf33

...I am still vexed about exactly what Homer is saying in 10-10-C is identical to paddle-Wheel but is a superior procedure. Is he talking about Left Wrist control is superior to trying to control the clubface with right arm straightening?

Secondly, would you ever recommend having a shut clubface at the top with vertical hinging to Hit?
The issue actually is Clubface Paddlewheel Action (2-G) and whether it is best executed as Left Wrist Paddlewheel Motion or Right Wrist Paddlewheel Motion. In either case, both the Left and Right Wrists are held Vertical to one of the three Basic Planes. In the case of Angled Hinging, that Plane is the Angled Plane of the Stroke.

But the Right Wrist Bend -- and hence the Clubface alignment -- is easily disturbed by variations in Right Shoulder Location and its effect on the Right Elbow's Impact Bend (2-H). The Left Wrist is subject to neither of these interferences and is thus best suited to the task of Clubface control.

Regarding the 'Shut' Face with Vertical Hinging, the Left Wristcock is always a Perpendicular Motion (4-B-2), even when executed on the Inclined Plane. And this is true no matter which of the three Hinge Actions are employed. Then, whether the Clubface is Square, Open or Shut (using the conventional terms) at The Top is a function of its alignment during the Grip Routine and any adjustments to the normal Impact alignments of 2-J-1. That is, Grip Type per 10-2-0-1 or Clubface Manipulation (Grip Rotation) per 7-2 or both. And, also, the Ball Location per 7-11, that is, the Clubface aligned more and more Closed (within the Flat, Level and Vertical Left Hand Grip) as the Ball is moved toward the Right Foot.
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Old 02-12-2006, 11:56 PM
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my first post here...lots of good info mikeo...does this all mean the the left wrist and hand from impact to followthru, remains vertical to the plane?
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The Vertical Left Wrist and Its Hinge Action
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my first post here...lots of good info mikeo...does this all mean the the left wrist and hand from impact to followthru, remains vertical to the plane?
Well, hello there, Olindutra, and thanks for this "first post."

The Flat Left Wrist and its Roll (Hinge Action) controls the Clubface Alignment (and the Rhythm of the Stroke) during Impact and Follow-Through. In so doing, it remains Vertical to one of the three Basic Planes of motion, i.e., Horizontal, Angled or Vertical. It remains Vertical to the Inclined Plane only during Angled Hinge Action.

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Old 02-14-2006, 12:40 AM
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The Flat Left Wrist and its Roll (Hinge Action) controls the Clubface Alignment (and the Rhythm of the Stroke) during Impact and Follow-Through. In so doing, it remains Vertical to one of the three Basic Planes of motion, i.e., Horizontal, Angled or Vertical. It remains Vertical to the Inclined Plane only during Angled Hinge Action.

Dear Yoda,

I know that the Flat Left Wrist is vertical to the Inclined Plane during Impact, and that it is vertical to the Inclined Plane during Angled Hinging. If one gradually rolls the left wrist on the backswing to place it on the Inclined Plane at the Top that is standard procedure for Hitting. But is it an acceptable procedure to keep the Left Wrist vertical to the Inclined plane all the way to the Top and give the appearance of a shut clubface? Or does this violate G.O.L.F.?
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Originally Posted by johngolf33

...is it an acceptable procedure to keep the Left Wrist vertical to the Inclined plane all the way to the Top and give the appearance of a shut clubface? Or does this violate G.O.L.F.?
Keeping the Left Wrist vertical to the Inclined Plane to The Top is an unnatural action that counteracts both the natural Body Turn and the natural Arm Swing. It is, in a word...

Steering (3-F-7-A).

It is also the procedure used by no less than PGA TOUR great, Miller Barber. But even the great Miller ultimately had to Fan the Right Forearm or else...

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